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View Poll Results: What should the drug laws be?
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Only drugs of medicinal purpose will be legal.
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Taxed drugs, alcohol, tobacco only be legal.
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Decriminalize marijuana, tickets/fines are only punishment.
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Legalize marijuana/soft drugs and tax/regulate for adults.
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Libertarian approach, legalize, tax/regulate all drugs for adults.
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07-30-2007, 12:01 PM
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Drugs and law.
What is your opinion on what drug laws should be?
1.) All non-medical drugs, should be illegal. You do not have the liberty to recreationally use drugs whether it be alcohol or tobacco.
2.)Taxed drugs stay legal. Alcohol and tobacco are the only drugs to be used by society besides drugs for medical purposes.
3.)Decriminalize marijuana but not legalize, make it a lowest police priority and punishable by only a ticket/fine.
4.) Legalize soft drugs and regulate and tax them similar to the Netherlands, separating the users from harder substances.
5.)Libertarian approach, legalize all drugs to try and decrease the size of the blackmarket and drug related crime.
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07-30-2007, 12:47 PM
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Lord of entropy
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Maybe I should have ............
........ no nevermind. The way you have it written HERE:
5.)Libertarian approach, legalize all drugs to try and decrease the size of the blackmarket and drug related crime.
Is fine. I don't think our govt. has any business collecting taxes on these. They waste enough tax dollars, giving them MORE doesn't make sense. We don't need the govt. to be seen as just another "pusher" either.
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07-30-2007, 01:30 PM
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I go for #5 as well. Making marijuana a crime but not alcohol is so beyond my range of thinking I don't know where to start.
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07-30-2007, 01:32 PM
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Soft drugs: weed, khat, LSD, mushrooms, etc. should be legalized and taxed. The assertion that they shouldn't be taxed is, IMO, absurd, as it would be an easy and effective method of generating revenue which could then be used to build upon and repair areas like health care.
Hard drugs like cocaine and especially heroin really have no business being legal. They're dangerous and have no constructive utility.
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07-30-2007, 01:42 PM
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Lord of entropy
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Originally Posted by Izzibeth
I go for #5 as well. Making marijuana a crime but not alcohol is so beyond my range of thinking I don't know where to start.
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Holeee shee-yit :-)
We agree 100 % on something :-)
Yes, it makes ZERO sense.
Alcohol is by FAR a worse and more addictive and dangerous substance than are the various THC's found in cannabis.
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07-30-2007, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe
Soft drugs: weed, khat, LSD, mushrooms, etc. should be legalized and taxed. The assertion that they shouldn't be taxed is, IMO, absurd, as it would be an easy and effective method of generating revenue which could then be used to build upon and repair areas like health care.
Hard drugs like cocaine and especially heroin really have no business being legal. They're dangerous and have no constructive utility.
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Hard drugs like cocaine and heroin are dangerous. They can kill you the first time you use them. However, as has been shown, making them illegal only adds to the death toll by throwing dealers, buyers and all that stuff into the mix. Just like cigarettes and alcohol, feel free to put restrictions on them in order to help keep the populace safe as best you can (thousands of people die a year from getting hit by drunk drivers... but alcohol is still legal). Adults have to be allowed to make their own decisions in life and if dying by way of overdose is on their list of things to do they are going to do it regardless of the legality of it. Making drugs illegal glorifies them and makes kids want to do them all the more... bringing the drug problem out in the open will help.
For example, cocaine is illegal. Because of that, people who do it think "hey, i'm breaking the law like a badass and getting a high out of it... yeah, some people think i'm a loser but i'm cool cuz i'm totally not following the rules". Take away that whole "not following the rules" bit and they are just a loser. It might not seem that simple but I can guarantee that for a number of people.. subconsciously.. that's it (besides the addiction part which can happen just as easily with cigarettes and alcohol).
I honestly believe that legalizing drugs will lower the number of users.
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07-30-2007, 01:48 PM
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Lord of entropy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iTaliAN_ICe
Soft drugs: weed, khat, LSD, mushrooms, etc. should be legalized and taxed. The assertion that they shouldn't be taxed is, IMO, absurd, as it would be an easy and effective method of generating revenue which could then be used to build upon and repair areas like health care.
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The way govts. all AROUND the world waste peoples tax monies and the way the U.S. wastes our tax monies and how inefficient and fucked up a load of bureaucrats are at getting things done well and you want these clowns to take on repairing health care ? With tax $$ from DRUGS ?
Health care in the U.S. is better than most OTHER places on Earth. I wasn't aware of it NEEDING repaired.
But I haven't seen Michael Moores nutty little spin flick either. Nor do I have any interest in his disinformation "movies".
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Hard drugs like cocaine and especially heroin really have no business being legal. They're dangerous and have no constructive utility.
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Make them all legal or leave it as is.
They're ALL somewhat dangerous and unhealthy to ONE extent or another.
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07-30-2007, 01:54 PM
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Health care in the U.S. is better than most OTHER places on Earth. I wasn't aware of it NEEDING repaired.
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At risk of getting sidetracked... the health care isn't what needs repairing.. it's the payment and access part that needs repairing.
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07-30-2007, 01:58 PM
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At risk of getting sidetracked... the health care isn't what needs repairing.. it's the payment and access part that needs repairing.
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Agreed.
IS kind of a side issue, but it's irritating. I think it's the way it is, because too many scum bags don't pay their damn bills. So they expect you to pay UP FRONT now. Jesus that pisses me off. They always USED to send me a bill and I'd PAY it. NOW, I have to run off to the freakin' bank FIRST.
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07-30-2007, 02:41 PM
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Agreed with Option 5. Who the fuck is anyone trying to kid by saying it's "ok" to to legalize Marijuana and have these OTC drugs available, yet Cocaine and Speed should be prohibited? Ritalin is passed out pretty easily in the country and it has many of the very same biochemical effects as Speed. Ygorl is dead on - legalize them all or ban them all.
With that comes a caveat - by doing this one is responsible to the damage done to oneself. You decide to snort coke and screw up your lungs by smoking? Do NOT send me the bill for your emphysema. You can sit in your own mess that you made.
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