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Old 03-09-2007, 02:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DC gun ban struck down

GovTrack: H.R. 5013 [109th]: Text of Legislation
Congress recognizes the 2nd as an individual right to own a weapon.

http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/...3/04-7041a.pdf
DC gun ban struck down.

I think this is great news, personally. Anyone else have thoughts?
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Old 03-10-2007, 09:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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GovTrack: H.R. 5013 [109th]: Text of Legislation
Congress recognizes the 2nd as an individual right to own a weapon.

http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/docs/...3/04-7041a.pdf
DC gun ban struck down.

I think this is great news, personally. Anyone else have thoughts?
I think the disaster/gun policy makes sense.

I've been writing a lot on another thread on the DC case. The DC case in the Court of Appeals being thrown out doesn't bother me because the law banning virtually all guns even in the home was over zealous. It does bother me that some see this as a reason to try and over turn a 70 year precedent in the Supreme Court that weighs more heavily on the "well regulated militia" part and less on the "prohibits infringement of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" part.

The current Supreme Court position which as I said has held up for the last 70 years now allows for reasonable gun restrictions like... No fully automatic weapons, no silencers, limits on the number of shells certain guns can legally hold, background checks before buying a weapon... things like that. It's been a good balance between allowing non-felon, non-mentally impaired citizens to own most weapons while keeping some type of a lid on the release of some of the more dangerous millitary style types.

If the 2nd Amendment would ever be interpreted by the high court as no gun may be infringed (restricted) it would send the United States back to the time of no background checks and Al Capone and the Tommy gun. And that's why Law enforcement supports the current 2nd Amendment interpretation or even something stronger.
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Old 03-16-2007, 02:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It does bother me that some see this as a reason to try and over turn a 70 year precedent in the Supreme Court that weighs more heavily on the "well regulated militia" part and less on the "prohibits infringement of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" part.
Do you ever do any research on what you rant about? For instance:

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Old 03-16-2007, 07:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry I don't go by NRA articles. I was quoting Meet the Press political expert & TV anchor Tim Russert. He went into a lengthy explaination and specifically used the 70 year number and explained how the DC case relates to the current Supreme Court interpretation. I believe him to be credible. I'm quoting what he said.

Take your bitch up with the network!
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't go by NRA articles. I was quoting Meet the Press political expert & TV anchor Tim Russert. He went into a lengthy explaination and specifically used the 70 year number and explained how the DC case relates to the current Supreme Court interpretation. I believe him to be credible.
I don't blame you. All the references to supreme court rulings of course have to be lies. Especially if they do agree with our own rhetoric.

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Old 03-16-2007, 08:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't blame you. All the references to supreme court rulings of course have to be lies. Especially if they do agree with our own rhetoric.

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Dude... I don't know what you want me to say. I think it's pretty clear the NRA picks and chooses the cases it wants to publicize. The fact is I just last week sat a listened to this whole DC gun ban discussion/history lesson on the Supreme Court on TV. Tim Russert went into great detail on how the 2nd Amendment has been interpreted for the last 70 years and why... and the changes that could occur if the Supreme Court ever changed it's interpretation.

You trying to brow beat me on something that I'm just telling you was explained at length on national TV is just silly. I'm just the messenger. If you think there's been a crime or a cover up of the real truth complain to the network... file a law suit against Tim Russert. I don't care.

But for now I'm thinkin' Tim Russert moderator of "Meet The Press" is about a thousand times more likely to be accurate than you... that's all I'm sayin'.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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But for now I'm thinkin' Tim Russert moderator of "Meet The Press" is about a thousand times more likely to be accurate than you... that's all I'm sayin'.
In logic studies, this is refereed to as "an appeal to authority".
I have to give it to you, despite your apparent lack of English language, skills, you always do manage to cloud and deflect the issues. Or, it could be that you cannot grasp the issues raised.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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In logic studies, this is refereed to as "an appeal to authority".
I have to give it to you, despite your apparent lack of English language, skills, you always do manage to cloud and deflect the issues. Or, it could be that you cannot grasp the issues raised.
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dahermit I fail to see what personally bashing me does to bolster your argument in any way. I'm guessing there's some low selfesteem issues. I can't help you with that.

All I can say is I understand that you take the NRA doctrine as gospel and I have formed my opinions from multiple credible sources.

I also understand that you are proud of being a high school graduate.

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Old 03-17-2007, 12:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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dahermit I fail to see what personally bashing me does to bolster your argument in any way. I'm guessing there's some low selfesteem issues. I can't help you with that.

All I can say is I understand that you take the NRA doctrine as gospel and I have formed my opinions from multiple credible sources.

I also understand that you are proud of being a high school graduate.

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PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FACTS!!!
LISTEN TO MY RAGE AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL DISTRACT YOU.
Could this be a tactic used by certain political and other organizations?
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