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05-05-2008, 11:12 PM
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Abortion - Death Penalty
How can someone with proper mental functions sanction the DEATH PENALTY but then go on a moral crusade against abortion? How can you claim to want to abolish all UNNECESSARY DEATH but then demand that criminals be punished with untimely doom? Can someone be so hypocritical to have such ideologies?
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05-06-2008, 06:25 PM
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Equating an innocent fetus with a guilty murderer is dumb.
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05-06-2008, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Javert
How can someone with proper mental functions sanction the DEATH PENALTY but then go on a moral crusade against abortion? How can you claim to want to abolish all UNNECESSARY DEATH but then demand that criminals be punished with untimely doom? Can someone be so hypocritical to have such ideologies?
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If you took the time to think about it, you'd realize that there is nothing hypocritical about supporting the death penalty while opposing abortion. I oppose abortion because it takes life away from the innocent. I support the death penalty because it takes life away from those who have been proven guilty of heinous crimes.
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-Treaty of Tripoli, 1794.
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05-06-2008, 07:48 PM
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Equating an innocent fetus with a guilty murderer is dumb.
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Exactly.
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"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen… it is declared… The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
-Treaty of Tripoli, 1794.
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05-06-2008, 07:50 PM
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Who are you to say who lives and who dies?
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05-06-2008, 08:03 PM
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Who are you to say who lives and who dies?
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Well, I'm not the one who decides.  The U.S. court system decides.
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"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen… it is declared… The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
-Treaty of Tripoli, 1794.
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05-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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Why does someone committing murder make them forfeit their rights as a human being? Is not the right of life a human right (on the charter of human rights)? By your logic, should not also the judge, jury, and executioner face the same fate that the murderer did, considering they took human life? No, because that's nonsensical. Deeming something as "heinous" and then seeking revenge by commiting that same "heinous" act is RIDICULOUSLY hypocritical. Jail time is used as a means of rehabilitation (aren't they called rehabilitation centres?), not as a means of punishment. Innocence is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to fundamental rights of the human being. Hell, what makes a human right a human right is that it applies to everybody! Not just people you deem innocent, EVERYBODY.
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05-06-2008, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Javert
How can someone with proper mental functions sanction the DEATH PENALTY but then go on a moral crusade against abortion? How can you claim to want to abolish all UNNECESSARY DEATH but then demand that criminals be punished with untimely doom? Can someone be so hypocritical to have such ideologies?
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Well, if you are a Roman Catholic it is easy.
The Church is against both abortion and the death penalty.
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05-06-2008, 08:33 PM
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Hold on, it was their decision to forfeit other peoples' life therefore, they must face the consequences of their actions.
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05-06-2008, 09:29 PM
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Why does someone committing murder make them forfeit their rights as a human being? Is not the right of life a human right (on the charter of human rights)? By your logic, should not also the judge, jury, and executioner face the same fate that the murderer did, considering they took human life? No, because that's nonsensical. Deeming something as "heinous" and then seeking revenge by commiting that same "heinous" act is RIDICULOUSLY hypocritical. Jail time is used as a means of rehabilitation (aren't they called rehabilitation centres?), not as a means of punishment. Innocence is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to fundamental rights of the human being. Hell, what makes a human right a human right is that it applies to everybody! Not just people you deem innocent, EVERYBODY.
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Your entire rant here is based on the assumption that I support using the death penalty as punishment for all murder crimes. I never said that.
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"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen… it is declared… The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
-Treaty of Tripoli, 1794.
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