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Old 04-07-2008, 11:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just when you thought we ran out of stupid.

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Iranian immigrants want Farsi-language Oklahoma driver's license testing


By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
4/1/2008 6:29 PM

OKLAHOMA CITY -- The federal government is investigating whether the Oklahoma Department of Public Safety violated the civil rights of Iranian immigrants by refusing to provide them with driver's license tests in their native Farsi language.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched the investigation in March after a complaint filed on behalf of two Iranian nationals living in Bartlesville accused the state agency of unlawful discrimination based on their national origin, according to a letter from the NHTSA to Public Safety Commissioner Kevin Ward.

Public safety officials said Tuesday that offering state driver's license tests in Farsi could force the state to offer tests and other state documents in a host of other languages, creating new costs and administrative burdens. The written portion of Oklahoma's test is currently provided only in English and Spanish.

"The enormity of the situation is overwhelming," said Oklahoma Highway Patrol Capt. Chris West. Driver's license tests in multiple languages would create huge composition and printing costs and translators would have to be hired to grade the tests in each language, West said.

"It could be a huge financial burden. And very labor intensive,"
West said.
Eh, I'd tell these ass holes to cry me a river. Learn English. We're going to keep screwing around and everyone will come here expecting us to learn their language.

Funnily enough, for two people who can not speak our language, they sure seem to have a handle on how to abuse our legal system.

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Eh, I'd tell these ass holes to cry me a river. Learn English. We're going to keep screwing around and everyone will come here expecting us to learn their language.

Funnily enough, for two people who can not speak our language, they sure seem to have a handle on how to abuse our legal system.
Too bad they didn't speak Spanish- I'm working on mi espanol, and all of those things in both English and Spanish help. How many languages can we put on labels and such? Sometimes I get stuff from Canada with English and French, but it is Spanish that I'm learning and see and hear the most of. Aren't I lucky?

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Old 04-07-2008, 11:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How many languages can we put on labels and such?
That depends on how much we want to spend, according to the article.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That depends on how much we want to spend, according to the article.
I'm happy with mostly English and Spanish. Too many languages could become confusing or the print too small.
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English-The national language!

I mean it certainly should be if we intend to maintain in sense of national identity and common society.

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I mean it certainly should be if we intend to maintain in sense of national identity and common society.
Well in case you hadn't noticed, English is THE international language, and those of US learning it as our mother tongue are sure lucky, and those of US that learn other languages as well, are even more advantaged. I am very proud of the fact that both my family and country are both multi cultural and multi racial.
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I would like to see an English speaker move to Iran and demand this of their government..... just to see what happened.
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I would like to see an English speaker move to Iran and demand this of their government..... just to see what happened.
If you visited Iran, you would find lots of English speakers, as you would almost anywhere in the world. Aren't we lucky that we speak English, and not Farsi, or?
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Could you try to sue their government? I could care less what language these people speak, but when you start filing cases against state governments in English speaking countries for not printing test in your language you've got yourself some pretty big bawls and they need to be kicked just a little.

Your comments seem to reveal that you think we're being aggressive towards these people. They are the ones being aggressive. I'll accept people all day long, but I'll be damned if someone is going to force me to accept them and threaten legal action if I don't placate every little whim they have. Putting up with people's stupid bull shit, just so we can say we're nice and cuddly, doesn't make us better people. You've already agreed that English and Spanish is well enough by itself. Do you think these people's civil liberties are being threatened by not having the driver test in farsi? Do you think they have a case against the state?
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Could you try to sue their government? I could care less what language these people speak, but when you start filing cases against state governments in English speaking countries for not printing test in your language you've got yourself some pretty big bawls and they need to be kicked just a little.

Your comments seem to reveal that you think we're being aggressive towards these people. They are the ones being aggressive. I'll accept people all day long, but I'll be damned if someone is going to force me to accept them and threaten legal action if I don't placate every little whim they have. Putting up with people's stupid bull shit, just so we can say we're nice and cuddly, doesn't make us better people. You've already agreed that English and Spanish is well enough by itself. Do you think these people's civil liberties are being threatened by not having the driver test in farsi? Do you think they have a case against the state?
I think it is unrealistic to expect the driver's test to be in farsi. I'm thinking it likely that they lose their case, but a lot of attorneys will get paid. But then, I'm not an attorney, nor do I know that state's laws. Do they need changing? As to English and Spanish, it suits me, and a lot of it is voluntary, and it makes things easier for those with one of those 2 languages, and that is a lot of US.

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