choclosteve

True enough. It must feel a lot like colonialism to the Palestinians. Lucky are those that are allowed to stay in or visit their homeland.

PayingAttention

That village idiot, George W. Bush, visiting Israel to celebrate their 60th birthday, spouts out the usual crap about "appeasement" which has absolutely no relevance to the present day situation in the Middle East.

He refers once again to the appeasement of Hitler (presumably the meetings between Hitler and Chamberlin).

The United States was the greatest appeaser of Hitler - they did not raise a finger to stop Hitler's march across Europe in 1939, 1940 and 1941.

Don't tell the rest of the world about appeasement.

Like pretty much everything else in Foreign Policy, most Americans and most of their government do not have a clue about anything that goes on outside their borders.

So shut up and quit stomping around the world making difficult situations worse!

Parisyann

Happy Birthday to Israel and best wishes from France!

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francois60

True enough. It must feel a lot like colonialism to the Palestinians. Lucky are those that are allowed to stay in or visit their homeland.


Israel is also made up of a million or more Jews from the Middle East who were kicked out of or fled from Arab lands.

The creation of Israel was a necessary population transfer. Just as many Jews entered ISrael from Arab countries as Arabs left Israel.

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presluc

Unluckey for those that started war the day after the U.N. declared Israel a free and independant state.
Strange,most people learn from mistakes made in history,yet even today the Palestine people are still WELL?

presluc

I SECOND THAT FROM THE great state of Michigan, United States of America

presluc

I thank you for sharing that information.
Unfornuatly I was not aware of this.

choclosteve

Most of those Jews that fled North Africa and the Middle east did so well after the creation of Israel, when those host countries took up the Palestinian refugee cause and became increasingly hostile to all jews.

Kerreh

Two questions you need to ask:

1. Why did Arabs remove the Jews? Because the Jews created the state of Israel and removed the Arabs. If the Jews wanted their own state, let them live their.

2. Why were their so many Jews in Muslim nations? Because Muslim nations treated the Jews much better than any other nation. Jews fled to Muslim lands from Europe because the Muslims treated the Jews much better. Otherwise, their would not be so many Jews in Muslim lands.

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Kerreh

Lets celebrate the birthday of Israel with some quotes of the peace loving leaders of israel:

The Zionist charter according to Ben Gurion:

From the beginning, Zionists advocated a "Jewish State" not just in Palestine, but also in Jordan, southern Lebanon, and the Golan Heights as well. In 1918 Ben-Gurion described the future "Jewish state's" frontiers in details as follows:

"to the north, the Litani river [in southern Lebanon], to the northeast, the Wadi 'Owja, twenty miles south of Damascus; the southern border will be mobile and pushed into Sinai at least up to Wadi al-'Arish; and to the east, the Syrian Desert, including the furthest edge of Transjordan"

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."

-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves...politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves...The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people...It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."

-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

"This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy."

-- Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"

-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."

-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."

-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."

-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."

-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online

Just some of the Zionist attitudes towards the Palestinians and their land, they also tacitly acknowledge the illegality of their actions.

, poor little Israel once again is caught red-handed spying on the US. From Reuters via Haaretz:

"U.S. authorities arrested an American engineer on Tuesday on suspicion of giving military secrets involving nuclear weapons, fighter jets and air defense missiles to Israel during the 1980s, the Justice Department
said.

Ben-Ami Kadish, a Connecticut-born U.S. citizen who worked at an Army engineering center in New Jersey, was suspected of reporting to the same Israeli government handler who dealt with Jonathan Jay Pollard, who is serving a life term on a charge of spying for Israel.

Court papers say Kadish's spying lasted roughly from 1979 to 1985, and his contact with the unidentified Israeli handler continued until March of this year."

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