Unca Walt

Folks, you will NOT see a whisper of this anywhere in the papers or MSM.

But the Osama staffer got up in a town hall meeting and asked a question of John McCain that is beyond anything you would be able to conceive of.

Here is the Osama staffer (Marty Parrish):




And here is the question (be prepared to be devastated, pilgrims):




Will Osama INSIST that this guy be removed from his staff?

Want to bet?

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

Maybe you ought to research the issue before flipping out over it. McCain is reported to have called his wife a "cunt" and a "trollop" in the book The Real McCain. If Obama gets asked 50 times a day about Reverend Wright, I don't see why McCain can't get asked about his potty mouth.

Judging by your indignant reaction to this question, I take it that you also have not heard of McCain's cursing out fellow Republicans?

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Oh and as for the MSM, you should hope that you do not get your wish, as I think that people getting wind of McCain calling his wife a "cunt" would not be the best PR move for him.

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Unca Walt

My point, WEB, was the use of such language at that venue.

You really cannot see a teeny bit of a problem?

Truly?

Why not have Hillary during the Fox interview being asked...

Question: "Hillary, did you really call him a "fucking jew bastard"?

Now, Hillary DID say that... but, WEB, you gonna stand there flatfooted and have folks from any audience bring it up? And think it is proper?

BTW: I AIN'T a McCain supporter.

I am disgusted with all three of them.

That does NOT mean that I have left my civilized upbringing at the door.

Clear enough?

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I'm sorry but when did we start living in Soviet Russia? A candidate says something, and now we can't ask him if he said that? Should we start referring to him as Dear Leader as well? McCain said the cuss words, the fault is his. If he didn't say those words, let him come out and put the story to rest. It's just stupid to shoot the messenger, when someone is ducking whether the message is true or not. I think the veracity of the message is more important than someone asking if the message is true or not doesn't do so in the most polite way possible. If you're going to be mad, be mad at McCain for cursing his wife out. Be mad at McCain for not giving us the straight talk on the story. Don't be mad because someone wants to know the truth.

That's an idiotic question, since Hillary never said that. Your comments are clear enough, they just have absolutely no logic in them.

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Unca Walt

But... she DID say that.

To stick it back in yer ear, son:

"You Fucking Jew Bastard!"

Jerry Oppenheimer's book State of the Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton (2000) quotes former campaign aide Mary Lee Fray, who says that Hillary exploded in a rage after Bill lost his first bid for elective office, a run for Congress in Arkansas's Third Congressional District against John Paul Hammerschmidt. Hillary blamed Fray's husband, Paul, for the campaign's bungled political strategy. The slur was uttered at a heated, finger-pointing session at Bill Clinton's Fayetteville, Ark., campaign headquarters on election night in 1974, following his defeat. "You fucking Jew bastard!" Hillary yelled at Paul, Mary Lee confirmed -- even though Paul Fray is not Jewish. [NewsMax, 15 July 2000]

So. What now?

The quote YOU accept as Gospel As Writ is not anything more than hearsay.

On the flip side (I do this... I note so far you do not) I have to say that McCain told a Dem to go fuck himself.

Wait... that was the Veep, now that I think on it.

Hillary's quote is as verified as McCain's. No... MORE so, since there are multiple witnesses. And it was not a single instance.

AGAIN, not my point.

It was a TOWN HALL MEETING, WEB. All kinds of folks there.

That kind of language -- used ONLY AS A POLITICAL DIRTY TRICK <-- pay attention and address that

...is out of place.

There are perhaps ten or more quotes available regarding Hillary and that language.

So... it is perfectly OK in your eyes to raise it at Town Hall meetings (kids present)?

Or, do you want to apologize for going off without data? And saying those WHO HAVE THE DATA, and post the data are "without logic"?

Hm?

Google: Hillary fucking jew bastard... and get back to all of us, OK?

Here's some more which should NOT be brought up in Town Hall meetings, WEB:

"Boy, he is so aggressive," Clinton said of Cuomo, who at the
time was his chief rival for the 1992 Democratic presidential
nomination.

"Well, he seems like he could get real mean. ... I wouldn't be
surprised if he didn't have some mafioso major connections,"
responded Flowers.

Clinton's rejoinder? "Well, he acts like one."

For someone who professes a zero tolerance for even so much as a
bigoted thought, Mrs. Clinton was strangely silent when her
husband was caught on tape slurring America's most prominent
Italian-American politician.

Hillary has also stayed silent lo these many years about this
choice quote, captured on videotape when Arkansas state police
had her brother-in-law Roger Clinton under surveillance for
dealing cocaine in 1984:

"Some junior high nigger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying
to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high
school. Whatever it was, Steve had the nigger down. However it
was, it was Steve's fault. He had the nigger down, he let him up.
The nigger blindsided him."

Former Clinton bodyguard Larry Patterson not only confirms
Hillary's regular use of the epithet "Jew Bastard," but revealed
last year that he heard Bill Clinton use the "N" word to refer to
both Jesse Jackson and local Little Rock black leader Robert
"Say" McIntosh.

**I** have the data. I also have the civilization to present such data only in acceptable venues.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I don't need to apologize for anything. Admittedly, I did not know someone wrote a book claiming that Hillary called some one a "fucking Jew bastard." You didn't say someone had. If anyone has to apologize it should be you, since it was very deceptive for you to throw out an analogy that seemed made up without honestly saying that someone had actually wrote a book claiming that. It's a fine trick, but a trick nonetheless and that's dishonest. So you should be apologizing for a dishonest trick there.

I don't need to Google Hillary fucking anything. McCain has cursed and got into physical fights with members of the Senate. So the story is believable. I maintain that it's a fair question.

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Unca Walt

I do not, I REPEAT -- deny or excuse ANY behavior on the part of ANY of these pathetic contenders.

I cannot believe you managed to be unaware of the WORLD FAMOUS HILLARY QUOTE and be a mod on a political forum... it is astonishing.

I will accept that you were ignorant of that VERY famous line.

It was NOT a trick. You are the only person I have ever met who has not heard it. Congratulations. And it was not just a book. It was all over DRUDGE REPORT and also NEWSMAX. And... are your ready? USA Today!

As well as Google.

Now...

You have called me "deceptive". <-- That is a personal attack. NOTED.

I was, and am, NOT deceptive. I am scrupulously honest. I do NOT start personal arguments, but will respond (far more mildly) to personal attacks. You should cease your personal attacks and address the point.

You said my point was "idiotic". <-- That is another personal attack NOTED

It was not, and is not. It is spot on. It is -- AS YOU NOW KNOW -- absolute truth.

Your personal attacks continued with an accusation (totally incorrect due to your ignorance of the truth) that I am "dishonest." <-- That is another personal attack. NOTED

You should rein in your PERSONAL ATTACKS THAT DO NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

Can you do this?

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I guess it's supposed to be impressive that you defend Clinton from answering questions about her alleged comments, as much as you do for McCain. I do not share such deferential treatment to politicians that you as well as people in North Korea might tend to show. McCain pushed one senator over and got into a brawl with another congressman. A BRAWL, ok, as in fisticuffs. He's also cursed out congressmen, on more than one occasion, I believe. I've never heard of this Hillary "Jew bastard" and it's not really relevant here. I do think there is ample reason to believe that McCain called his wife a "cunt." So if he can call her that, and people can talk for months about Obama's reverend, this too is fair game.

I maintain that.


WEB

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Attacking the status of a moderator is against forum rules. Personal attacks are against the forum rules. You were already warned before. You are banned for two days.


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