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Old 03-14-2008, 01:37 PM
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The national average is now $3.90.
I'm just venting - OPEC says they wil not release more barrels. Talk about Terrorism...we need to erradicate OPEC until we can figure out how to circumvent this oil problem. There is no reason for $100. barrels of oil-none.
Keep in mind that the U.S. gets most of its oil from Canada and Mexico; neither are members of OPEC.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:21 PM
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ah the follies of man.............

when confronted with the realities of inelastic and essential commodities he looks for the problem everywhere but where it really comes from

other cultures throughout history used to pray to their god(s) or sometimes build more of these:

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Old 03-14-2008, 09:49 PM
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ah the follies of man.............

when confronted with the realities of inelastic and essential commodities he looks for the problem everywhere but where it really comes from

other cultures throughout history used to pray to their god(s) or sometimes build more of these:

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That is absolutely true.
Well next time I see the bill for filling up my Opel I will think about it, maybe it softens the pain for my wallet.
I've had cars since I got my driving license but boy, do I feel lucky that after I moved to Asia many years ago, I didn't have to get another one. Having great public transport here, be it by bus, subway, ferry or even by cheap local taxi is doing just fine for me. Of course, I rent a small car when visiting Euroland but that's only 1 or 2 times a year and for a short while!
On the other hand, in many places people here are abusing/misusing the A/C for 9 or 10 months a year which leads to huge bills and bye-bye the environmental friendly carbon footprint.
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Old 03-15-2008, 02:32 AM
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Keep in mind that the U.S. gets most of its oil from Canada and Mexico; neither are members of OPEC.
You're correct about Canada, but I'm fairly certain that Saudi Arabia is number two on the list.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:27 AM
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Nothing can soften the pain ...........

The average price of a litre of unleaded petrol in the UK is 106.2p (£4.82 a gallon) and a litre of diesel is 112.7p (£5.12 a gallon).

The price of UK road fuel has risen 60% in the past 10 years.

$10 a gallon
The U.S. will soon catch up to the U.K. in the price of petrol. As a matter of fact, we will likely surpass England, as the English pound and Euro are stronger currencies than the dollar. Gasoline is still amazingly cheap. We pay more for gallon of pepsi or gal. bottled drinking water than we do for a gallon of gas. On an equal voluum basis, we spend more for tea, coffee, beer, shampo, etc. Considering the potential of oil to produce the needed energy for important work, we treat it like it a cheap waste product. When it goes to $10 a gallon, it may finally get the respect it deserves.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:40 AM
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Agreed. But that will take years and we need solutions now.
If the gosh-darn tree huggers would smarten-up and work with us normal people we could have other local options- Mexico, Alaska, South America all offer options.........but NNNOOOOOOOO, instead we worry about owls and turtles...

Boy, I'm glad we have our priorities in order.

You are blaming the wrong people.
Did the wild life of Alaska create the fuel prices of today.
Dude, put the blame where the blame is due.
Think for your self.
Let me tell you something...
...It doesn't matter where we get our oil from. The oil that would come from Alaska or anywhere else is going to go to the highest bidder...probably china.
It's about money not America.
Where does the oil we pump in Alaska now go?? Do you know?? Over 90% goes to Japan.
They pay more.
It's about money, not America or it's people.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:52 AM
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Take a look at the OPEC numbers. OPEC nations are basically already producing the maximum amount of oil they can - they don't have the capacity to increase output. Of course they don't admit it publicly, since saying that the biggest oil cartel in the world is maxed out would be catastrophical.

Increasing supply doesn't solve anything. It's decreasing demand that is paramount.

Here, I paid $4.11 yesterday...for a by product of making gas! It cots nothing to make diesel.
It's not supply and demand, it's greed and demand!
If you raise the price of an item and by doing this doesn't create more of that item then how does raising the price change anything?
I think the reason prices or very high is;
If the prices go up then they make more profit off of less product.
There is no shortage.
Only greed.
Some scientists think now that oil is not created from plant and animal matter but from the heat created from the Earths core but you hear nothing about it.
Remember that secret meeting the oil bastards had with that bastard cheeney and then the next week oil prices went through the roof??
What do you think they talked about??
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Old 03-19-2008, 10:05 AM
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Man, I would be the happiest man on earth if I could buy diesel for $3.90 a gallon. I live in the Netherlands and I have to pay €1.30 for a liter!!!! So this means that I pay here €4.92 a gallon. And since €1.00 = $1.56 this means I pay $7.68 a gallon.

Increasing the production wont stop the rising of fuel prices, we need to become less dependant on oil. In china live 1 billion people who all travel bicycle, what do you think what will happen if there wealth becomes so high that they can afford to drive cars?
Historically if you buy in bulk the product is cheaper. The more bulk you buy , the cheaper the product is.
We here, buy way, way more oil than Holland does and how much tax do you pay on gas and diesel?
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High gas prices will lead to the market naturally switching to an alternative fuel source. This is the free market at work. We don't need to subsidize gasoline to keep it around longer.

Maybe people will start walking more, and use some public transportation.
Alternative fuel source? Sounds good.
Do you think the oil companys would allow that to happen?
Do you think oil men and women in political positions would allow that to happen?
We've already have alternatives invented...where are they?
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