Sure.

IF.

OK, so you'd like to remove all Muslims.
1) How do you define a Muslim? A third of "muslims" never go to mosque.
2) Where would you send them?

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To your comment:

Originally Posted by Brother Oz
OK, I'll ask then, do you think we should throw out all (as opposed to just the most extreme) Muslims from western countries such as Australia, the USA, the UK, etc.

My short answer was:

There ARE times that I think this. Or maybe feel like we should.

I went on to explain why, at times, I FEEL that way.

The better question might be how many more jihadi attacks will America stand for before she DOES deport, or eject every "muslim" ?

They aren't our friends, they hate and want to kill us.

Is all I can hope for is that the next attack they have planned to carry out in the U.S. misses ME.

I do feel that Thane's post #21 here does raise a significant issue: Muslims out of Australia !

While I am not outraged by a bunch of Arab kids "spooking" people who are staring at them, I do think that supporting the mujhadeen in Iraq is pretty significant.

I sat in on a Muslim prayer once. If I recall correctly, I think the imam there was saying that the fighting in Iraq makes no sense and that all Muslims there need to stop killing each other. He reported the days violence as a tragedy and senseless. That was the impression I got.

That part was in English. The prayer was in Arabic.

I do think that the story in that article is significant though and worth considering.

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Hell yeah it is. WTF, the author is going to drop a bomb like this......

and not say what town or city it was in.

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Y'know web, I KNOW you think M. Savage is a ... whatever

I wish you'd have heard him last night though. He had a Muslim call in and explain how he TOO is sick of "muslims" hatred and goals to kill and murder people in western societies.

This was obviously an educated and moderate Muslim man who was as tired of it as are the REST of Americans.

So, after hearing that, NO, I wouldn't be for "running them all out" of America.

But, as Savage stated to the man (and he totally agreed) the radical killers were his worst enemy TOO, because Americans are coming to identify the word "muslim" WITH "radical killers".

How are we all supposed to know which "muslims" aren't arranging some kind of mass killiing in the name of "all-ahhhh"

How are we supposed to distinguish the good from the BAD ?

This seems to be their biggest problem.

Anyways, I wish you had heard that call in. I think maybe your opinion of M. Savage would have improved a bit :-)

You know what really changed my mind about Muslims in Western society? It was when I saw this interview in France of two Muslim women. One was in the full burkha (bed sheet) and the other was in a hijab (headscarf). Both of them said they supported Bin Laden. That was kind of like a major moment for me in how I think about Muslims in the West.

I've had a lot of good friends (in real life, not just on the internet) who are Muslim. Two of my best political economy profs are Muslim. I grew up with good Muslim friends. I went to graduate school with Muslims from Turkey.

It's not a clear picture. There might be some problems with integrating them, and there might be some problems with their conflicting loyalties, but this is not a simple situation. I can't say much more than that right now.

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I do think that our foreign policy is imperialist though, just as most powerful countries in world history have been imperialist, and this is responsible in large degree to why a lot of Muslims hate us.

Even the Iraq Study Group Report said it: get peace in the West Bank so that the Arabs will stop seeing us financiers of Zionist ambitions.

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Yes, I'm well aware of your veiws that we have a so called "imperialistic" foreign policy.


You like to blame Islams hatred of the west on THAT. That's your opinion and I won't argue it with you.


You say:


Even the Iraq Study Group Report said it: get peace in the West Bank so that the Arabs will stop seeing us financiers of Zionist ambitions.


You know how many times and different strategies Isreal has given into and attempted to appease the aggression of Arabs ? Still hasn't worked has it ? Nothing will work. I know I know it's Israel and Americas imperialism that's caused all the problems.

You're back to sarcasm. You come across with a very nasty attitude often times. Well you can go back to your smilies then. You can go back to thinking that you have all the answers and everyone else just doesn't get it. You seem to be most comfortable with that mode of thinking.

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