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Finally, Taiwan propaganda are coming out for the UN bid. I have been waiting and wondering what takes them so long since it is already very close to the UN meeting.

History background: Taiwan was conquered by Kangxi Emperor and incorporated into the Chinese Qing Dynasty. Hundreds of years later, Chinese Qing dynasty lost the first Sino-Japanese War in 1895 and Taiwan was given as Japanese colony for 50 years till 1945. Republic of China took it back after Japan was nuked. Three years later, the Nationalist leading party of Republic of China lost the civil war to Communists in Mainland China. Theoretically and legally, the governments in Beijing and Taipei are still in civil war status. North and South Korea at least have a truce pact. But Beijing and Taipei do not even have that for their civil wars. Both governments can continue to war without any war declarations. The end of the story.

If the people in Taiwan want independence from the Chinese civil wars, they have to win the battles and die for it. Take your American daddy for example. The 13 North America states won their wars against the Great Britain, so they became independent. On the other hand, the southern US states lost their great independence wars against the northern US states, so they have no chance to be independent.

Playing Comminism card is useless. Informed EuroAmericans know what is happening in China is mostly raw capitalism like the Great Britain in the 17th, 18th and 19th century.

Playing "Democracy" and "Freedom" cards is futile. For developing countries, "Democracy" and "Freedom" are merely traps set up by the developed countries. The Ruling Elites in EuroAmerica also know very well about that. British slave traders and opium dealers got rich by their massive conquered colonies under their Queens' "mercy"; France has been swaying between empires and republics for centuries; Germany was never significant until Von Bismack's great policy of "Iron and Blood"; Japan's enlightening Meji Reform has to thank their great kings. America gradually built up by massive slave labor and genocides to rob other people's lands. Even for Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea, they all get rich under the great dictatorships. In front of the history, playing "Democracy" card is a joke.

Playing sympathy card is the best card for Taiwan to attract the support from the human-right fundamentalists among western liberals. However, the human-right fundamentalists can hardly be the mainstream even in the left wing politics, how can anybody expect them to control the EuroAmerican decision makers.

Playing Chinese aggression card is not going to scare intellectuals. Even during the Imperial Chinese era, Han Chinese dynasties only emphasized on the unification of China Proper. Manchuria, Mongolia, Central Asia and Tibet were not originally conquered through force by Han Chinese dynasties. Mongols and Manchus conquered them and Han people only inherit them. Chinese ideology of Confuciaism, Taoism and Buddhism is much more peaceful and much less aggressive than Western ideology from monotheist Chrisitian doctrines.

The human rights card can be played by left or right and no doubt it will be played in a forceful way. The only question is how much is china willing to bend especially in light of the fact ,as has been said , she is communist in name only.

CHINA is not communist in name only. She is identifiable by a totalitarian regime spewing Communist rhetoric.

And Luke? If you honestly think that European intellectuals fall for that line of bull, I feel sorry for you.

Taiwan is deserving of self-determination. Your historic diatribe has nothing to do with 2007. My Lord, has anybody progressed?

European intellectuals have little to do in Taiwan. I think you are trying to refer to American intellectuals. The most fundamental values for Corporate America are money, oil and weapon sales. Corporate America are very clear what they can get from mainland China and what they can get from Taiwan, and they know the best if China is communist, socialist or capitalist.

Since American government did not give Self Determination to the rebellious Southern states. I see no reason to give that to Taiwan. Your "Lord" should have helped you progress to realize that money is the most important thing in capitalism, despite the pretty but useless human right rhetorics.

Lol!! Yes, forgive me, and I mean it now. You've made a couple of noteworthy points. The human rights rhetorics about China are impotent, I agree and the America's Southern States are stll in some pockets smarting. . . . meaning self determination is merely bestowed. . . .

I think it's also important to remember that the Nationalists were corrupt, you know, raping and killing their own people, whereas the communists, at least originally, we're pretty cool to most of the population- e.g., land reform and involving the people in the government. Philosophically I think the US has no business defending Taiwan, but politically I think it's a great bargaining chip for us. China's becoming an impressive power, and when we really need a favor from them we can always just hand Taiwan over- conversely, we could use it as a political motivation to attack the mainland, if we ever need to.