ackenu

How do you think of China,the goverment,people,or something
Dont be insult.Ive just signed this forum.and I see a guy's signature is RMB handled,thats ill-mannered.but if one like,nobody cannot prevent.make us delighted,she is a beauty,I hope you can delete that picture.

john6489

Sure ,you can have your opinion on everything, but not facts and truth.
If there is facts and truth,it must be only one. it is not yours or my fact and truth.

lowly educated brutal person is in the name of CCP, as always from its begining till today.

Read more history, about those CCP and KMT leaders. How many educated you can name in CCP? and what kind of education they have had made them killing machine?
Revenge is also a human rights ,when people suffering the un-justice from those in Power.

Can you find any mercy in your educated CCP? name me a few?

Yes, you are come close to the understanding of my theory with DOS and windows.
DOS is basic, such as Food for life. But is food is all for life?
Ignore you, is you do not care about the fact and truth ,while you claim your opinion.

"Matthew 7:6 ^
Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, or put your jewels before pigs, for fear that they will be crushed under foot by the pigs whose attack will then be made against you."

I am an religious feak.hehe

Wish you are not.......

smallpox

Evil is not a fact or a truth. And you can't empirically determine evil through facts. You rather conclude it base on your reaction to facts. It's the basis of being a biggot. By saying something is evil, is showing me your impartiality. Thanks for giving me credibility

Is that a fact? Too bad the CCP hires graduate from Beijing University, which is harder to get into than Harvard.

Show me in what constitution it says one has the right to REVENGE. Again, don't make stuff up and don't talk about what you obviously understand little. Revenge is barbaric, based solely on emotion, and useless. I can't even see on what basis you can conclude it's a right other than perhaps some hatred loving cult you participate in.
Again, you have proven nothing of what I said is false. You've called them wrong, but aside that, have done nothing to back up your wild allegations.
Learn how to argue.

I don't understand your question.

.................................................. .........Your theory on DOS? I'll blame your poor English for the terminology. You can't eat DOS. Don't try, I can tell you right away that DOS is not food. I either saved your computer from bite marks or this was the lamest, most uninformed analogy I've ever heard.

Of course I care about facts. If only you'd present any to dispute my arguments rather than posting fallacies, contingents, and emotions.
Look up these three words in the dictionary.

smallpox

Your religious?! How dare you pretend your christian.

Even if the CCP oppressed people as you would like to pretend, you are still a hypocrite for calling yourself Christian:
Romans 12:14
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.
Romans 12:17
Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
Romans 12:19
[i]Beloved,(AN) never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord."
Romans 12:21
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

In other words, turn the other cheek, don't resort to violence and revenge like you have been and called for. "Revenge is a right?" How can you even morally say so, it's not like you have any legal support for this.

john6489

One major difference, jesuss said these to Christian, his believers , and not eveyone is believer.

So, There most of the Old testimony is to be followed for sure, for those non-believers.

That is great vrese for believers, thanks.

smallpox

So you don't believe in Jesus Christ? thus his teachings don't apply to you? You just said you were a religious f[r]eak and quoted Matthew. If not Christian what are you? If Christian, how can you justify defying Jesus' morals and calling it a "right"?

So this quote was supposedly only to treat Christian who happen to be enemies of Christ? Jesus didn't tell us to discriminate people. He dined with the non-believers, with the sinners, with the tax-collectors. Why, because those are the ones who need His message, His ethics and His teachings the most. Turn the other cheek; if someone steals your tunic, offer him your cloak, not if someone steals your tunic and happens to be Christian, offer him your cloak. Jesus was in direct opposition from the Old Testament's retributive ways. Adding words into Jesus' mouth is insulting at best to real Christians.

john6489

jUST Come back...

Clam down Baby,Hi..


Whom is a Christian or Not?

Accept Him on mouth, and believing Him from my heart.That is a Christian.

I am Christian or not , GOD will make his Judgement the day i pass away from this earthly life to Heven.
What you or else said about me, I do not care. sorry, Baby.

To make better use of my little education i got in China , I have decided to use it for Find, Knock the Door, Asking for:Truth and Fact.

Argue with you or anybody else is not my target. Yes ,I may not know how to argue with, how to spell english perfect as original english languaged.
It is O.k enough, I believe anyone here read what i said, will know that i am a Chinese ,write and speak Chineglish. hehe.

i would like to say, that dictators in the name of CCP oppressed and oppressing our CHinese, instead of use totalized word CCP .
CCP is an dirty word for our suffering and suffered Chinese, it remind us the killing ,jial, perscution, famine,fear and terror, the total control on all aspects of our Chinese life.

Those individual dictators in CCP's name ,should be and must be put under Justice, and revenge on them is right by those suffered and suffering, and Christian should have the courage to defend, to fight for the suffered and suffering.

Yes, you are right to introduce me the Bible teaching about Whom should practice the revenge , and I do believe that those dictators in CCP is not deserve the punishment from our Chinese people only, And God must kept the right,and will revenge ,punish them by HIMself.

I do not think those people, such as Li ping and Deng Xiaoping ,Mao and Jiang, and their family members can sleep peacefully in today's phsically modernized China.

They have closed all the doors for our suffered and suffering people to forgive them, to be mercey to them.

They are afriad of our Chinese now, and the punishment is begining..

Looking what's Liping said about 64 in his dairy; What Deng's daughter said about 64 on HongKong Tv; What the just died Ma Li said about PLA tanks even can not smash pigs in 64;.... I think Jiang must have said something about his roles in persecution on FLG also.

Looking at the Human Rights Defence activities happen at 10s of thousands cases yearly all over China now: People are not fear those dictators in CCP anymore.

Their end of days is near.


My dear Smallpox,I am glad to find that you said you will not deny the facts.

One of my constructive suggestion for everybody here on this forum, with the very Good TOPIC on" How do you think of China":

1.Let's find facts about China first ,then make our conclusion.
2.How to find facts, this is open to be discussed here,
3.Luke and you, Winter and LeoXiao, you can be the great people to start on the exact facts finding.
4.the few facts about China to be find: everyone can make an suggestion, but for me, i would like to suggest the following:

a.internet and pressfreedom in CHina.
b.is there 70-80 million killed by CCP over last 60 years in China
c.whom has freed China from Jap invasion, or
d.CCP is organized ,operated and financed or not By Red Russia?
e. whatever is interested by us.

I believe only with the facts supported, then we can claim on whom is responsible for the good and bad of China.

How do you think of China, is basically to find the way to describe China 's today and yesterday.

What do you think of ?
I am tired of to argue with you,and tired of to call Luke or you liar ,cheater or pigs, those are all dirty word, as CCP is for me.

If you feel the attacking of those word is personal, i am sorry.

I repeat here again that CCP is liar,cheater and pigs,it is more dirty than Nazi.

john6489

No, you are wrong. Jesus is not in direct opposition from the Old Testament.
He suggest that all the laws of GOD in old testament should be followed, and the No.1 order is to LOVE HIM in the NEW Testament.
That is the updated time ,like from Dos to Windows; and relationship with HIM from the slavery to His friends.

His words can not be recorded and stored even with the whole earth.
Add or not,is with different action, with different means ,in different defination of word system.

In Jesuss eye, only two kind of people, the believers and non-believers.

No such word as freak religious and other exist in His eyes.
Try to be little bit not too boring, baby.

Oh, i found that you know alot of Christian, where you get those eductation from? Just curious......

smallpox

You believe Him so much that you don't have to follow his teachings? It's easy to say you believe Him, it's a different story to actually follow His message.

So you saying your Christian and not following His teaching is irrelevant? At least don't give Christians a bad name.

You mean little education period.

English is also my second language. It's no excuse to slack off. I taught English for a while in China and I can tell you that my young students could articulate better and so could you, given you make the effort.

I'd say there's a difference between Maoism and the current CCP. I'd also say that out of the imperialists, the Qing, the Ming, the Civil wars; the current China and the CCP is doing much better than it has for hundred of years and it is liberalizing and ameliorating itself daily.


Again, LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF A DICTATOR.
Again, seeking revenge is a Bible faux-pas (不好）, like I demonstrated. But there you are, calling on the same "evilnesses" that you're supposedly opposing the CCP for.

I don't even understand that part about Deng Xiaoping's daughter. Care to quote something if these are facts? Sound like more "organ harvesting plants in Shenyang" made up bullshit a la Falungong.

I gave you plenty of facts on China, and I even gave you bible quotes to appease your emotional reactions to limited facts. You have argued against none.

I did not say that Jesus was opposed to the Old Testament as a whole, simply that he opposed it concerning retribution.
Matthew 5:38
38"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[obviously part of the old testament and code of Laws from Hammurabi's] time[a] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Oh and just a tip for later (it's more for your own benefit) but I know you're calling me "baby" as if you have authoritative grounds over me. In the end though, it just sounds gay (同姓的的 GAY，不是高兴的 GAY）

As for my education, I have years of Criminology/laws, am a third year towards a degree in Chinese and international relations and spent countless hours at churches and temples of any major faith.

john6489

They are plent of the news, it is around 27th,June. I think you know how to google it.

Will come back after ,for the other topics.

Lots of facts about China from you? Boring,WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS? the Mao's free of China from Jap imperialism?

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