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Old 05-02-2007, 06:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sothern Thailand: After The Coup

The Muslim south is experiencing a raise in violence since the coup.


The September 2006 coup in Thailand, despite its damage to democratic development, opened the way for improved management of the conflict in the Muslim South. Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont’s interim government has overhauled some of its predecessor’s worst policies and signalled willingness to address longstanding grievances. But verbal commitments in Bangkok have been difficult to translate into changes on the ground, and relations between security forces and local communities continue to be strained while violence mounts. Thais outside the South have exerted pressure for a return to heavy-handed crackdowns on suspected militants. The government must respond to the escalating attacks, but with care – widespread arbitrary arrests and civilian casualties would only increase support for insurgents.


International Crisis Group - Southern Thailand: The Impact of The Coup
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Southern Thailand unrest

Muslim in Southern Thailand

In my opinion there should be a peaceful solutions to this problem, there is no point in killing people just to express their dissatisfaction with the Goverment. Muslims in southern thailand should form a political party to represent them and to voice their greivance to the goverment. Do it politically! there is no point in killing people just because you think they are richer than you or smarter than you and you dont have the privilege. We have to work for everything not blame everyone when something bad happens.

My Opinion on Thai Goverment

The Goverment should negotiate and give the south a chance to represent themself in the goverment. At least allow a medium for them to voice their dissatisfaction and greviance and appoint a regional Muslim representative to help them. This way they can understand better the local situation and address the problem. But if the senseless killing is still carried on then tougher measures must be taken to counter it. No point letting this type of extremist to carry on killing people. Well maybe human rights may say not to kill them but think again they are killing people everyday. 1 extremist/terrorist kills 10 a day that makes 280 people a month. if this guy is removed then 280 people can be saved. which is better?
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I live in Malaysia which located below Thailand and we have the same root with the Thai muslim.We all know that it's Thaksin supporter who attacking the army and muslim people so that they can make the army fight with the muslim people.
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South Thailand

Hmmm... well i have a few questions bothering me....

1) The unrest started even before Thaksin was toppled, that means unless he is a real idiot he is digging his own grave to cause this type of trouble so that people dont support him.

2) So far no one have claim responsibility to the bombing, but as we know Dr Mahathir have become the middle man or mediator for the Thai goverment and the muslims in South, how did he know who to contact? if the Thais dont even know who did the bombing?

just curious
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Hmmm... well i have a few questions bothering me....

1) The unrest started even before Thaksin was toppled, that means unless he is a real idiot he is digging his own grave to cause this type of trouble so that people dont support him.

2) So far no one have claim responsibility to the bombing, but as we know Dr Mahathir have become the middle man or mediator for the Thai goverment and the muslims in South, how did he know who to contact? if the Thais dont even know who did the bombing?

just curious
That unrest happend because Thaksin killed dozens of Thai muslim but when Thaksin was ovethrow the violent increases drmaticly.The muslim says that the army killing muslim while the army says that the muslim kill the buddist and the army.Thaksin is hoping that the Thai people will overthrow the army goverment and elect him back as PM.

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In your earlier statement you said that happen because tHaksin kill muslim, but what i mean is before the Thai Goverment start to take that harsh measures there is already killing in southern Thailand, infact way before Thaksin become the Prime Minister.

the second question is since you are in Malaysia maybe you can help answer my question below?
2) So far no one have claim responsibility to the bombing, but as we know Dr Mahathir have become the middle man or mediator for the Thai goverment and the muslims in South, how did he know who to contact? if the Thais dont even know who did the bombing?

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My Sister in law is Thai, and I am inclined to see
things in Thai favor.

However, I do not offhand see the need for Buddhist,
secular Thailand to retain its Muslim southern provinces,
which it only took over in a ca. 1900 land-grab with the
UK in Malaya. I am inclined to advise the Thias to give
up sovereignty over this different culture area, letting
it join with Malaysia or be independent, according to
the wishes of the people.
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However, I do not offhand see the need for Buddhist,
secular Thailand to retain its Muslim southern provinces,
which it only took over in a ca. 1900 land-grab with the
UK in Malaya. I am inclined to advise the Thias to give
up sovereignty over this different culture area, letting
it join with Malaysia or be independent, according to
the wishes of the people.
Well, I think there is no peaceful way of giving land away.. I don't think there is any state gives its lands without fight...
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:37 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, I think there is no peaceful way of giving land away.. I don't think there is any state gives its lands without fight...
That is not true. The USSR gave away several million
square miles and 100 million people without firing a shot
in 1991.

On a smaller but also important scale the US gave away
the Panama Canal and the Phillipines.

Sweden and Norway gave up each other, Belgium and
the Netherlands gave up each other The Czech Republic
and slovakia gave up each other, the Netherlands gave
up West Irian, and perhaps there are other similar cases.
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, I think there is no peaceful way of giving land away.. I don't think there is any state gives its lands without fight...
And Turkey, Iraq and Iran should give up
the land of the Kurds.

Kiurdistan would have the same size and
population as France, and should be an
independent nation.

No doubt any of those fool Scots who I
have been arguing with will be all over me
if they catch wind of what I have just said.

No need for them to: if they insist on leaving
they should be allowed to, both Scot and Kurd.

Scots are much closer to the English, though,
than the Kurds are to the Turks.

In fact, the Kurds are closer linguistically to
the Scots than they are to the Turks. I bet
you didn't know that.
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