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Old 06-07-2007, 10:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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And Turkey, Iraq and Iran should give up the land of the Kurds.
Well, I don't know others, but for Turkey it is not possible till the last Turk drop.. granting land is out of Turkish logic.. land is the most important thing to die for...We can give up our children, our mothers, fathers but not our lands...
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well, I don't know others, but for Turkey it is not possible till the last Turk drop.. granting land is out of Turkish logic.. land is the most important thing to die for...We can give up our children, our mothers, fathers but not our lands...
The trouble with your argument is that the land
is inhabited by Kurds, not Turks.

Turkey has no more right to the Kurdish land than
it had to the Arab land, the Greek land, the Slav
land, and others. Turkey has more than it should
rightly own, and should give it up.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The trouble with your argument is that the land
is inhabited by Kurds, not Turks.

Turkey has no more right to the Kurdish land than
it had to the Arab land, the Greek land, the Slav
land, and others. Turkey has more than it should
rightly own, and should give it up.
Same can be said for USA and Hispanics, Indians, Afro-Americans...
Same can be said, for Russia, it is originally Finnic tribes' place, not Slavs..

Anyway, this discussion sucks because when it comes to motherland we never use words, so lets stick on the subject instead..
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Old 06-08-2007, 06:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Same can be said for USA and Hispanics, Indians, Afro-Americans...
The Kurds definitely occupied their present home
territory prior to the arrival in the area of either the
Turks or the Arabs. They may well have been there
longer than the Iranians. Turks might be considered
immigrants compared to the Kurds. Modern Hispanics
are guest workers and naturalized citizen immigrants.

Kurds occupy a contiguous terrirtory about half the size
(300k sq. km) and population (25-35 million) as France.
Modern Indians number approx. 2.5 million and are broken
into scattered enclaves. About half of them live under their
own laws on reservations totaling 225k sq. km.

African-Americans have no more claim to priority of
settlement than European-Americans, and they have
never voiced a desire to form a separate country.




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Same can be said, for Russia, it is originally Finnic tribes' place, not Slavs..
The Finnic tribes have been confined to the east Baltic
area since the biginning of recorded history. Going back
that far in history to right wrongs would require Turkey
to return Islanbul and the entire east Aegean coast to
Greece. In fact it would require Turks everywhere to leave
their homes and nations and return to Siberia. I know you
do not want to follow your own logic on that point.

Russia would be an excellent example for Turkey to follow,
seeing as how it reliquished soveriegnty over populations
it had ruled for almost 300 years in some cases.




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Anyway, this discussion sucks because when it comes to motherland we never use words, so lets stick on the subject instead..
Use as few or as many words as you wish and I
will do the same.
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