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Old 05-09-2008, 05:17 AM
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Myanmar refuses to allow aid in.

What do people think about the refusal to allow aid workers in?

The Associated Press: UN blasts Myanmar for visa policy on aid workers
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:58 AM
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Myanmar Junta has now seized all aid material flown in leaving its people to suffer unnecessarily.....

Just heard on news24
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:04 AM
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Can't say I'm terribly surprised. The country's a military dictatorship that carries out ethnic cleansing, I'd expect them to be more paranoid about workers they don't control than concerned about their people's lives.
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:46 AM
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Yes, they have absolutely no concern for their people's lives. Having refused help and deported aid workers, rather than putting everything into finding and helping people with the tiny resources they themselves have, they are blaring out music about this vote they are supposed to be having. Apparently they don't even trust China or Thailand enough to let them help. Maybe to be expected but it makes me

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Old 05-09-2008, 11:16 AM
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I'd say that this a major case of a state failing as a whole and a UN chapter 7 ought to be enforced to force in aid. But that's unrealistic. All we can do is watch and learn that states are not benevolent and has been responsible for the most deaths in the world for the past 300 years.
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I'd say that this a major case of a state failing as a whole and a UN chapter 7 ought to be enforced to force in aid. But that's unrealistic. All we can do is watch and learn that states are not benevolent and has been responsible for the most deaths in the world for the past 300 years.
How the hell does UN Chapter 7 come into play? Myanmar hasn't attacked any other nation nor is it presenting an threat to peace with any other nations.
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:33 PM
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No, the help can't be forced on Myanmar. Unless it can be proved that a deliberate genocide is going on.

The question is however more if Myanmar can refuse to refuse the help.
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How the hell does UN Chapter 7 come into play? Myanmar hasn't attacked any other nation nor is it presenting an threat to peace with any other nations.
It depends on your perceptions. Chapter 7 calls for the security of the people, I personally have a broad view of security which includes economic wellbeing and other variables to survival (moving from specific limitations to encompass a greatly deal of individual ordeals). You might have the more traditional narrow perspective usually including conflict and the military.
Further I refuse any of the UN limitation to interstate issues. I don't see why "regions" have to be limited to two + states.
That's my perspective on the UN and again, I have admitted that it was unrealistic and will probably never go forward.
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No, the help can't be forced on Myanmar. Unless it can be proved that a deliberate genocide is going on.
Even then, it's not like the international community has a good track record of intervening in obvious genocidal acts.

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The question is however more if Myanmar can refuse to refuse the help.
I think there isn't too much debate here. Of course it can't. I think the real question is that given it can't refuse aid, and yet it does, can the state be considered as a failure to act as a state (meaning provide the basics of security and safety to its citizens)?
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Well, there are planes waiting on the runway in Thailand loaded with food, medicine, doctors and nurces, and other forms of aid. As soon as they get the "green light" they are going to be taken to Burma to help relive the citizens of their agony.

However, there was another time in the history of the world when boarders were freshly closed along east and west Berlin. Dispite the protests of the Soviet Union, the US for 8 months, carried out a series of humanitarian missions called the Berlin Airlifts, providing the people of East Berlin with Food and other general healthcare items.

My point is, screw the pretencious dictator, he's not a threat to world peace. Send in Humanitarian airlifts of Food and Medicine. Basic things that could save lives. When it comes down to it, saving human lives trumps politics 4 times out of 5.
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