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smallpox · 05-05-2008, 03:29 AM

I sort of agree that criminal sentencing would be useless to someone who tortures his/her own cattle. But I would rather force therapy help and measures to assure the amelioration of his behaviour towards his cattle up to but not including complete seizure of the farm. Throwing him in jail or issuing fines won't help in the least, especially considering that these sorts of behaviours are often gradual (torturing small animals, to then bigger ones have a real possibility of ending up in human victims). Plus it's utterly irrational, considering that torture leads to tense bovine, resulting in poor quality meats.

anya · 05-05-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited

I guess it comes down to what one values. As I said, I value human life infinitely more, and you perhaps value animal life almost as much as human life. I agree that unnecessary pain should be discouraged, but only informally, e.g. on the consumer level. I may think that rancher Bob who likes to torture his cows is a sick fuck, but I wouldn't put him in jail for it... I suppose I wouldn't mind if reasonable fines were imposed.... i.e. violation level offenses, not misdemeanor or felony.

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Originally Posted by smallpox

I sort of agree that criminal sentencing would be useless to someone who tortures his/her own cattle. But I would rather force therapy help and measures to assure the amelioration of his behaviour towards his cattle up to but not including complete seizure of the farm. Throwing him in jail or issuing fines won't help in the least, especially considering that these sorts of behaviours are often gradual (torturing small animals, to then bigger ones have a real possibility of ending up in human victims). Plus it's utterly irrational, considering that torture leads to tense bovine, resulting in poor quality meats.

I live under a different justice system to you and possibly a different idea within the country on animals.

I think the UK is very strong against cruelty to animals. People are well aware of what constitutes cruelty to animals and therefor there is no excuse for it.
RSPCA || News

You will see that in the above examples the sentences were in terms of months and bans against people keeping animals , slightly less than the sentence would have been had this cruelty been against humans!

People know here that cruelty to animals is unacceptable and if found can result in criminal proceedings. If they continue to do it, they can only accept whatever happens.

Edit: It also appears that letting people aware they will not get away wilh cruelty to animals is bring such cruelty down. That has to be a good thing.
BBC NEWS | UK | Animal cruelty convictions down