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I respect Dalai Lama as a knowledgable person, but I see his political positions hypocritical. About Tibet, the facts are:

1. Mongolians first conquered Tibet in 11th or 12th century, and include Tibet in the Yuan Dynasty, with capital in Beijing, together with Siberia, Xinjiang and Manchuria.

2. Throughout the Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty, every new Dalai Lama and Panchan Lama must be inaugurated by the government in Beijing. Beijing usually sent some generals to Tibet to represent the central government. But it is true that the central government rarely interfere with the theocracy in Tibet.

3. During the Republic of China, due to the warfares in the rest of China, Tibet nobel lamas did have more autonomy power, but even Americans admitted Tibet as part of China, which can be shown in American documentaries about China through 1930s and 1940s.

4. In 1952, CCP army entered Tibet with little resistance. Dalai Lama and Panchan Lama acceptted the Communist Party and went to Beijing to see Mao in 1954.

5. In 1957 and 1958, national land reform began to spread to Tibet. In Han China, the land were distributed to the peasants from the landlords. In Tibet, the land were given to the serfs and slaves from the monastary nobles. This severely hurt the interest of those high ranking Lamas, which provoked the 1959 Dalai Lama's fleeing.

6. Throughout the cultural revolution, some Tibetan temples were destroyed. But this was not specifically focused on Tibetans, those temples in Han China were also destroyed. It is Mao's mistakes that hurt all China.

7. In 1960s and 1970s, CIA funded and trained those exile Tibetan nobles to fight with Chinese army. During these periods, Dalai Lama never said any thing about "peace".

8. After Nixon's visit, America abandoned Tibet army, and in 1980s, it was almost impossible for Dalai Lama to win anything in the fight. Then, he began his peace advocation.

Nowadays, Dalai Lama has become a "nice" guy with Buddhism thoughts, which most westerners feel curious and exotic. It is good. I would like more people to know about Buddhism thoughts.

Before CCP entered Tibet in 1952, Tibet was under absolute theocracy. Female serfs' skins were often peeled to make drums for religious ceremonies. It was not a peaceful and beautiful story as Dalai Lama tells the westerners. I agree that: after 1959, monastary nobles in Tibet were persecuted, but most of the peasants and serfs gain much more rights than before.

[quote=W.E.B How is the Dalai Lama not being honest?[/QUOTE]

I remember in the USPOL forum,Samantha quoted Dalai Lama's speech,he said there was no serf in Tibet before late 1950s,he meant CCP told the world lies.frank and direct,Dalai Lama told lies to the world.the truth is there were many serfs in Tibet,and CCP wanted to reform the land system and give the serf land,CCP did it in other province(it like KMT did it in Taiwan since early 1950s to middle 1960s.),before 1949,CCP promised start land reform in the red revolution.CCP's land reform enraged the Tibet serf-owners,it like CCP's policy scared most han landlords(you know most landlords went to Taiwan with KMT).Tibet serf-owners fear CCP's reform and land policy,so they against CCP by their private armed troops since 1956.and you know Dalai Lama faild in armed conflict and escaped Tibet went to India in later 1950s.
and i don't think Dalai Lama did any good things on peace case,so he shouldn't got Nobel peace prize.

I just wounder Washington Government protect anyone,if that guy says CCP did political prosecution on him,CCP put down him on religion....Washington Government believe all of these,but don't care that guys told truth or lies.
Don't you feel Washington Government's policy is funny this time?

Dalai Lama knows he is dying,so he says"he doesn't want to make Tibet independent,he just wish Tibet being a High degree of autonomy area"
but too bad,no one believe Dalai Lama's lies today

I just wounder in 1956,when serf-lards select violence way to against CCP,why Dalai Lama stay in India and refused to back to Tibet?
what peace did Dalai Lama make?

Washington DC does not necessary believe in them. They just want to use them. After Nixon visited China, Washington DC soon abandoned those Tibetans. It is after 1989, Tiananmen Incident and Soviet collapse, that Washington re-pick them up.

I think that yes, the Qing Dynasty conquered Tibet, but Tibet was free during the Ming Dynasty.

I need to read up more on the history of Tibet. It'll take me a while, but I'll post later (maybe in a week or so) after I've done some more reading on Tibet.

Please read my last post (#15) against GORT in the following address:
Changbaishan mountain belong to Korea? - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

All the English sources are about the beautiful lives of those slave owners and noble lamas brought out by Dalai Lama and his higher class followers. If you read ancient Chinese and Mongolian documents or Tibetan archives, Tibetan noble's religious life is written down together with the nightmares of the serfs and slaves.

CCP persecuted those high ranking noble Lamas. In 1951, 5% of the Tibetan population owns all the land. These 5% are persecuted in 1950s and flee in 1959. The other 95% of the serfs and slaves enjoy much better lives after the Buddhism theocracy was overthrown.

I looked at about half of the YouTube video you showed, which is presumably about Tibetans being turned into drums.

Just out of curiosity, who produced that video?

In any case, I definetely would not trust anything the CCP says. I will look for an impartial source and then figure it out. Maybe in a week or so, I'll be ready.

That video is an entertainment video. You are supposed to appreciate the Tibetan singing style. That singer is Han Chinese, who have lived in Tibet for many years, and hear the story from some local Tibetan elder person. The Tibetan drum making before 1950s is part of the religious ceremony. I don't see it was a crime. You can go to Tibetan Archive and read those original scripts in Tibetan language. You can still purchase the human skin drum in Lhasa today for about 100 bucks, but the skin on that is peeled from dead lamas, so CCP allows that.