You're right it doesn't matter... However I've read somewhere on this forum that you can improve a thread's kwality by posting a hot chick pic so here we go:

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HK had a torch relay general rehearsal last Friday. Police is probably prepared but with these things you never know. Hong Kong has some experience with handling peaceful manifestations against Beijing, mostly regarding very local issues.
I don’t think residents here, aside for the few known local troublemakers, are going to disrupt the relay as they know it would considerably hurt the relations with the mainland. On the other hand, HK has quite open borders. So, if the relay gets into trouble it probably will be because of visitors trying to mess up the torch's ceremony. We'll wait and see.
I personally would prefer this whole Olympic Mess over and done with already, in all honesty. Mister Jacques Rogge and Co have some serious thinking to do for the future games. Otherwise we already can imagine the London Games getting into trouble over for instance Scotland, Gibraltar, the Shetlands or even Diego Garcia.
For France, in hindsight, I think not getting the 2012 games was a gift from heaven after all. Just imagine..

Ignorant comments. Just a few months ago, some Taiwan businessmen want to set up a chemical company in Xiamen City, and that attracted major protests. Shanghai planned to continue to build another Magnev Train, and it attracted protests, as well. Another live example of ignorant westerners commenting without any knowledge of the issue.

Are you trying to convince me that there is the freedom of expression in China? I highly doubt that. Because people protested a business venture, and the government did nothing does not mean that when Chinese protest their own government that there would not be repercussions. This has been proven by history. I will admit that my comment may have been to harsh, as I think that China is improving all the time, but I still think that the Chinese Government tries to suppress dissent.

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Hi sailor,
I know about quite a few times when they were not only protesting Bizz ventures but also very local ones. Take my word for it, as I'm not going to look it up now. But surely Chinese have not the same way of freedom you're alluding to. Fact.
I'm glad though that you admit they are improving. Or better they were... because regarding the visa restrictions of today they look like a bit getting back into their shell. For personal greedy reasons I dislike that bunches

Well, would the visa restrictions be more of a protectionist action? What do you think the motives would be behind this action?

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"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel."
-Ambrose Bierce
A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. - Vique
If there is a God...I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit..." -George Carlin

1. security.
2. Punish us "bad" people.

Welcome to China.
I sincerely am thinking about a new banner: "Fark the Olympics" unless they do it the olympic way... (joke) Nude boys to enjoy the gals and nude females to enjoy the others. (end of joke)

I understand. Although,I am not too sure that I would like to see naked men wrestling as in ancient Greece, although I can`t say that I wouldn`t show up to the female games, strictly for academic pursuits,of course

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"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel."
-Ambrose Bierce
A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle. - Vique
If there is a God...I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit..." -George Carlin

Glad for having a gweilo with humour here.
Have a good evening.

Some Frenchmen are more intelligent than others.

French senator Jean-Luc Melenchon has pledged his support for China Olympics and reveals the truth about Tibet.

Why do western governments and NGOs apply double standards when it comes to human rights? Silence on Guatanamo Bay, former colonies, ...

Many NGOs championing Tibetan independence and return of Dalai Lama are toeing the line of American neo-cons.

Kosovo was not meant to declare independence but ended up as a US base ... why?

Do they really want to support a return to theocracy in Tibet? A secular and efficient government should be replaced by a less democratic religious one? Come on, what's the agenda?

For those who have not watched this :