wake up and smell the coffee.


[/QUOTE=Parisyann;171214]The average Chineses on the street should stop believing everything they're told and try some other sources. Why not foreign media to see what we really think of China and not unofficial gossips? [/quote]

the average westerner should stop believing everything they're told and try some other sources. The loudest Chinese protesters are actually those live in the "free world", those who have access to multiple sources, and those who have friends and relatives in Tibet. But of course, they don't get much coverage in your "free press" as they can't do much economic damage.


[/quote]Wow so now you link Jin Jing to the Tiananmen Tank man thus Tibetans protesters in Paris to tanks 'emselves! Wow that's a new one from the propaganda against the Dalai Clique I guess! [/quote]

Yup, they are terrorists, period. And no, it's not just me linking the two images. Any Chinese who has seen the 2 images would do that. You guys have delivered a golden propaganda opportunity to the CCP, and really can't complain when they take advantage of it. Which government, commies or not, won't?

I didn't say you were the only one linking the two images but thanks for clearing that up. Basically you are confirming my so-called western bias against CCP propaganda. Hopefully here the pro-Chinese and pro-Tibetan protesters who you call terrorists won't go to jail or anywhere else because they live in the free world not PR China.

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Who do you mean by "you guys"?

So far as I could see, the guy who tried to snatch the torch from Jin Jing looked Tibetan. He was also photographed at the London torch relay. Are you trying to implicate the entire Western world in his action?

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I would think that it means:

(1) Incompetence of the French police (British has done a much better job) when it comes to stop the anti-China protesters;
(2) Lack of media coverage denoucing this kind of unacceptable behavior.

But of course, she might think differently.

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Since 500 years ago, the west started setting fire everywhere in the world, after 500 years, the west cannot even bear a torch. --Annonymous

I think the best job was done in that country I don't remember quite well but I think it was Pakistan (YouTube - Olympic Torch Relay Pakistan) or maybe India (YouTube - Torch Relay in New Delhi India...This Torch Relay is a Farce) where there was nobody around thus the police were peacefully running with Chinese "athletes" along a deserted road... Isn't it pathetic?

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The 2 countries doesn't have a large Chinese population or are they sympathic towards the Chinese government. There's nothing that the Chinese can really do anyways and they have the torch run along a deserted road rather than having another 'grab a torch' event.

The Chinese are waiting until the Torch reaches Hong Kong, there should be plenty of Chinese who are looking foward to see it. I doubt that any protestors would try to show up would probably want to get arrested to get the Safety from the Chinese.

No, all is not that great in the PRC.
While I understand and agree with the Chinese stance on Tibet, and have also seen firsthand the improvements their central government made in say, the last 15 years, I agree less with their stance on Formosa, for example.
Off course, China is no democracy and it doesn’t even pretend to be one. Much still has to improve for the people but I can see they work on it, be it too slowly in the eyes of outsiders. Child labour and even slave labour still exists. The central govt is not 100% in control of their representatives at the local level. Those local bosses will close their eyes in exchange of bribes offered by unscrupulous business people and factory owners. It takes time to correct all this, especially in a place with 1,3 billion people. (BTW those crooks get caught more and more today.) Maybe we Eurolanders can look into our history till the 19th century or even the beginning of the 20th?
Just instead of demonising today’s PRC, we might try to react in a more constructive way and have some respect for the immense task and challenges countries like China (or even India for that matter) are facing now and in the coming decades.
But hell, no… wagging our fingers in outrage for stuff we did ourselves not so long ago seems to be the way to go and feel happy about, right? That exactly is what we show China and others today.
Doesn’t the word hypocrite ring a bell here? Don’t we really understand why we are considered as arrogant idiots?
Now, if for exposing western hypocrisy and arrogance I’m called a commie-lover by using lines like “Hail to the motherland my friend right?!”…believe me: “cela glisse sur la carapace de mon indifférence.” I could NOT care less.
I agree with Mikado for saying that President Sarkozy is into damage control with his letter (and his envoys to Shanghai and Beijing.) Damage control that was efficiently countered by the Socialist Mayor of Paris. Very constructive and great timing indeed.

the world has changed,but you western haven't.
you always act like the tutor of the world, come on , wake up!

Whether my comment is follishness or the stupidity of yours does not matter. Whether you condone the riots or not does not matter either. The response from your posting itself should tell you that many people have the assumption that you are one bias prick against Chinese people. Whether it is what you are thinking only you will know.

I've neither called you a commie-lover nor do I care. Again where did you get such a far-fetched idea?

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