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04-18-2008, 09:17 AM
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Japanese Parade to support Tibet Independence!
Who invaded our mother China since 150 years ago? It is Japan!
Who sized Taiwan and enslaved our compatriots for 50 years from 1895 to 1945? It is Japan!
Who made the slaughter of killing more than 300,000 people in Nanning? It is Japan!
Who never acknowledge their invasion and beautify their killing in World War II? It is Japan!
Now, it is Japan again! Supports the Tibet separatists!
All Chinese should be careful! We have a dangerous neighbor!

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借我三千虎贲,复我浩荡中华! 汉旗指处,望尘逃遁!敢犯我中华天威者,虽远必诛!
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04-18-2008, 09:48 AM
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All Chinese, Do Not Forget Our Humiliating Modern History! We suffered from the invasion of western and Japan robbers! Now, our mother is more powerful, those alleged democratic countries begin to slander us and support the traitors to separate our mother!
In their opinion, only their political system is called democracy, but slander ours as despotism! What they really want to see is just the China 100 years ago, so they can invade and grab China's wealth again.
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借我三千虎贲,复我浩荡中华! 汉旗指处,望尘逃遁!敢犯我中华天威者,虽远必诛!
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04-18-2008, 10:39 AM
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Hey, go reread your constitution and know why you are not a democracy in our eyes. Your constitution protects the govt. of china from the people it hould be written the other way around.
No one wants to invade you anymore, and your overinflated sense of justice is scary.
Here's a link to your constitution. . .
ICL - China Constitution
Not written until 1982, any human rights (not even considering civil) are over ridden by the "well being" of china.
At lest the west sees its own evils, seems chineese nationals have no shame or humility. . .
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04-18-2008, 11:15 AM
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Yeah! Those damn Japanese who protest for the rights of Tibet!! China should be able to terrorize and occupy Tibet the way Japan did to them in the first part of the last century!! Every Chinese should stand up for the right of China to brutalize the Tibetans the way that Japan did to China!!
(Please note the heavy sarcasm) This attitude makes me sick.
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04-18-2008, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by libertarian0507
Yeah! Those damn Japanese who protest for the rights of Tibet!! China should be able to terrorize and occupy Tibet the way Japan did to them in the first part of the last century!! Every Chinese should stand up for the right of China to brutalize the Tibetans the way that Japan did to China!!
(Please note the heavy sarcasm) This attitude makes me sick.
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Heavy sarcasm? Haha! We have be used to the western sarcasm which acutally shows their ignorance and distortion and discrimination! I think I know Tibet history and its current situation better than you, even I know US history better than you I think! I think you statements have several mistakes of the general knowledge, first, you mistake invasion and sovereignty, Tibet is always a part of China historically, Tibet is in the territory of China, it is a province of China, but Japna is a foreign country, its occupation in China is invasion, but the relation between China and Tibet is just like that US and California, is California a independent country?
Second, who was killed in Tibet? Not the Tibetans, it is the innocent people and our policemen, five girls were burnt to death by the alleged "peaceful protest", Tibetans attacked banks, shops, schools and hospitals! Is that a protest or violent riot? In fact Tibetan have the best human rights in China, Tibet people don't need to pay tax, don't not need to be restricted to the family policy, school education for Tibetan is totally free, goverment regulates that teachers must use Tibetan to teach Tibetan students. Those are our Ethnic Policy to benefit the minority.
China have 56 races, every races has their own culture, our gov respects and protects their culture and benefits! all the 56 races are members in a big family! Do you think it should be called occupation and brutalization!
Who slaughtered native Indians in west US? Who has slavery until 1864?Who has discrimination against black even now? Who spreads war around the world and occupies other countries? It seems the country is not China, it is just that country who always states he is the most democratic country and respects others' freedom!
Long live the unity of the people all over the world! Long live communism and socialism! Long live truth and peace! Beat all imperialism!
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借我三千虎贲,复我浩荡中华! 汉旗指处,望尘逃遁!敢犯我中华天威者,虽远必诛!
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04-18-2008, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GlobalSmiles
Hey, go reread your constitution and know why you are not a democracy in our eyes. Your constitution protects the govt. of china from the people it hould be written the other way around.
No one wants to invade you anymore, and your overinflated sense of justice is scary.
Here's a link to your constitution. . .
ICL - China Constitution
Not written until 1982, any human rights (not even considering civil) are over ridden by the "well being" of china.
At lest the west sees its own evils, seems chineese nationals have no shame or humility. . .
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thanks for the link, friend, the content is the same with that I learnt from school. Just as you said, "why you are not a democracy in our eyes", pay attention to "in our eyes", there is what Chinese people and the Muslim countires hate, only the democracy in your eyes could be called real democracy, other systems are called"undemocracy" and "human wrongs"! Do you think that is equal? On our earth there are more than 200 countries, every country has its own features and situation, they have the rights to choose the way to fit their country. Do you think the western democracy system can be suitable for all the 200 countries in the world? Just take an example, if a man got a cold, of course he should have the medicine for cold, but if he got cancer, should him have cold medicine? of course he should have tablets for cancer.
I acknowledge your statements partly about the human rights in China, it is the truth in the past tens of years there were bad things destroying human rights, but I think the same things exist also in US, in UK, in France etc. Every country has its own trouble. What people need to do is just to make efforts to make up and overcome trouble, at least in China, great changes have been made! The new China has not a very long history less than 60 years, and we are liberated from old China who was invaded and enslaved by western imperialists, we are a young developing country, of course there will be many mistakes and troubles. But all Chinese have the confidence we can make our motherland better!
People from different countries should understand each other, they shouldn't ask other people to just comply with their standards.
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借我三千虎贲,复我浩荡中华! 汉旗指处,望尘逃遁!敢犯我中华天威者,虽远必诛!
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04-19-2008, 04:10 AM
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people see china as undemocratic because it lacks the fundamental concepts essential to one. if you need help categorizing governments you can look up the various forms in a dictionary or read books about them. the term democracy is a defined form of government developed with the help from social literary works so there's a lot of resources out there that you can use.
if you have a blue cow you don't call it red, similarly, you don't call an authoritarian government a democracy.
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04-19-2008, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chaochao
Heavy sarcasm? Haha! We have be used to the western sarcasm which acutally shows their ignorance and distortion and discrimination! I think I know Tibet history and its current situation better than you, even I know US history better than you I think! I think you statements have several mistakes of the general knowledge, first, you mistake invasion and sovereignty, Tibet is always a part of China historically, Tibet is in the territory of China, it is a province of China, but Japna is a foreign country, its occupation in China is invasion, but the relation between China and Tibet is just like that US and California, is California a independent country?
Second, who was killed in Tibet? Not the Tibetans, it is the innocent people and our policemen, five girls were burnt to death by the alleged "peaceful protest", Tibetans attacked banks, shops, schools and hospitals! Is that a protest or violent riot? In fact Tibetan have the best human rights in China, Tibet people don't need to pay tax, don't not need to be restricted to the family policy, school education for Tibetan is totally free, goverment regulates that teachers must use Tibetan to teach Tibetan students. Those are our Ethnic Policy to benefit the minority.
China have 56 races, every races has their own culture, our gov respects and protects their culture and benefits! all the 56 races are members in a big family! Do you think it should be called occupation and brutalization!
Who slaughtered native Indians in west US? Who has slavery until 1864?Who has discrimination against black even now? Who spreads war around the world and occupies other countries? It seems the country is not China, it is just that country who always states he is the most democratic country and respects others' freedom!
Long live the unity of the people all over the world! Long live communism and socialism! Long live truth and peace! Beat all imperialism!
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I don't think you know anything that your government doesn't tell you to be quite honest. Do you really know the history of Tibet? Do you really know the way that Tibet has been treated at the hands of Beijings dictators? Here is an interesting quote:
If the matter of Tibet's sovereignty is murky, the question about the PRC's treatment of Tibetans is all too clear. After invading Tibet in 1950, the Chinese communists killed over one million Tibetans, destroyed over 6,000 monasteries, and turned Tibet's northeastern province, Amdo, into a gulag housing, by one estimate, up to ten million people. A quarter of a million Chinese troops remain stationed in Tibet. In addition, some 7.5 million Chinese have responded to Beijing's incentives to relocate to Tibet; they now outnumber the 6 million Tibetans. Through what has been termed Chinese apartheid, ethnic Tibetans now have a lower life expectancy, literacy rate, and per capita income than Chinese inhabitants of Tibet.[2]
I also urge you to read this article : Chinese settlements in Tibet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now let me say this. You most certainly do not know more US history than I my friend, because you proved that you did not know that California used to be an independent state. They voted democratically to enter the Union of the United States and were accepted. A totally backwards story from China's genocide in Tibet when they forcibly took over a nation that had declared their sovreign independence. Two totally different things. Yes, the US has not always handled things the best way , and I will be the first to admit it. However, we have this thing called democracy in our nation that allows us to remove leaders if they prove themselves grossly incomptitent. Mao for example was responsible for the 30 million + deaths as a result of his failed "great leap forward" and responsible for so many other atrocities such as the 10 year long "Great proletarian cultural revolution" Where the Red Guard roamed the nation destroying China. BTW, there is no institutionalized racism in the US anymore. There are laws against discrimination. You can't control what some people think, but you can control how they act on it. How ever, China, snce you want to talk human rights, has 68 crimes that are punishable by death, including tax evasion. China's government is still a barbaric group of totalitarian thugs . Communism has NEVER worked and will NEVER work EVER!!! The only reason that China is growing is because they threw communistic econimic theory down the commode and into the trash heap of history, and began capitalism again and look what happened, China started to grow again. The only way China will ever keep growing with out tearing itself apart, is if it initiates political reform as well as econoomic reform. I hope it does.
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04-19-2008, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by libertarian0507
After invading Tibet in 1950, the Chinese communists killed over one million Tibetans, destroyed over 6,000 monasteries, and turned Tibet's northeastern province, Amdo, into a gulag housing, by one estimate, up to ten million people.
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This is bull shit! Even DL's govt. doesn't claim this anymore. Tibet had only about 1mn people back in the 50’s. The natural population growth rate of the US has been around 1% per annum. If Tibet had indeed suffered such a drastic population loss, how is it possible to have 3mn+ Tibetans now?
Patrick French, who had campaigned for the Tibetan cause for 20 years and was the head of Free Tibet Campaign in London, was given access to the original documents that purported to support this massacre claim. Unfortunately he found them full of holes and came away with “the unwelcome conclusion that this survey was a statistically useless attempt to satisfy Western demands for data and tabulation” so that the Government in Exile could drum up western sympathy and support. [Tibet, Tibet, 2003]
French had subsequently resigned from Free Tibet Campaign.
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04-19-2008, 07:32 AM
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Not written until 1982, any human rights (not even considering civil) are over ridden by the "well being" of china.
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I think you will find most countries in the west will have a provsion for over ridding human rights in the name of "national security". Why do you think China will be any differernt in protecting its "well being"?
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At lest the west sees its own evils, seems chineese nationals have no shame or humility. . .
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Genralising against a whole people is offensive. I suggest you reconsider your words.
*some* Chinese nationals don't see the evils of the govt, some see differently and have different opinions.
Also, there are many in the west who live by the moto "my country right or wrong"
Are we so different?
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