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Old 04-17-2008, 01:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It's not a question of in my eyes. However, to answer your question, no. Chinese nationalism is Chinese nationalism though. You seem to prefer using doublespeak: saying that Chinese nationalism is morality or common sense and morality and common sense are Chinese nationalism.
That's your presumption.

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Old 04-17-2008, 05:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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the decision on who is a terrorist and who is a freedom fighter is all in the eye of the beholder. neither side can claim to have the objective stance on this since the terms are always subjectively used.
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Old 04-26-2008, 08:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't know in the tian'anmen affair photo gallery, if you have seen the tanks and trucks were burnt. And the trucks were used to carry soldiers. It was tragedy, I saw burnt body.Other things, Do you saw the tank man carried a bag? And the tank man climbed on the tank with the bag and trying to open the hatch....It is danger, the bag would be support to be bomb (i am sorry, my memory i fade at this point if he try to open the hatch. I thought I remember he tried to open the hatch. I have the DVD of tank man sent from my USA friend.) .

My God, at this point, the tank man with a bag would be killed a thousand times in Iraq, they never let anyone get near a army vehicle no mention tank. And the tank man with a bag would be killed a hundred times in any country where army vehicles were burnt.

But, in beijing, Why tanks dodged the man several times and people speak with him, it is about several minutes long.... And when people went off with tank man, tank man walk rather than fight against?

If a man try to stop a tank, he at least have some percentage confidence on he could stop the tank unless he decide to suicide. Why he had such confidence, if army killed innocent people with machine gun. Any why he have confidence to speak with soldier inside the tank. And why people speak to him before went off with him. And why tank man's feet walked if he want to suicide, why didn't he fight. The relationship between a citizen and army is speaking, believe from what you saw from the video, carefully use deduce it may come from bias supported parameter like X Y X...

The reports of tank man is a perfect example shows the bias of western media to decode from a video.
There is no question that this is a sign of awful propaganda in China.

I saw this happen. The Chinese students were totally pacifist, cheerful people.

When the government sent the tanks in this individual went in front of a tank to appeal to him as a fellow Chinese being not to get involved in harming the peaceful and unarmed students.

We in the west were holding our breath that this would be the outcome.

Then we saw the Troops open fire on the defenseless students murdering them on mass.

Possibly Cindy will be able to affirm that this was true if she was able to watch on television.

But if this is the extent of your propaganda, I don't know how you can believe anything that is said.
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