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View Poll Results: Safe House Approach
Should efforts be made to find assylum by some agency? 0 0%
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Old 03-30-2008, 07:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Prayers For Assylum

Help me out community. Do you think it's just to hold a person captive when he or she has made known it wants to flee a country for better terms of living? Take for instance the western culture of Tibet and the inter-familial arranged marriage culture. Even though this is their religion, should they be forced to marry a family member such as a cousin or uncle? If the daughter or son refuses to do this, is it just to lock them in an underground cellar and mix the minutes amount of puff fish toxin into their food to sedate them and pander them out to clients because the family can't afford health care and other expenses. See when the marriages are arranged, the family has also made financial arrangements in which the the husbands or wife family integrate financial responsibilities for the needs. But most neo generation offspring want their on life and not having to marry a family member or a person of the same religion. If the offspring refuses, and attempts to get away, the religious group will either catch the runaway and return them to the family or the police will. The courts will not here the cases of those who want to leave regarding the abuse they face, and they are literal slaves of their own families. What can these people do to find assylum and leave the country to escape persecution? Help me to see the light in this situation community. I just trying to make sense of this. What can a citizen of Tibet possibly do to escape such torture and abuse when the government itself is against their plight? Please respond.
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Asylum could be manipulated as Castro did to us a few decades ago. He literally sent all of Cuba's criminals to the US disguised as "political prisoners". He got rid of all his undersirables and we got all the problems.

It could also be the case that some regimes will deliberately increase human rights abuses to pressure those ethnicities out and into Western countries. Just something to consider.

I'm sure the Chinese would like it if the Tibetans moved to the USA.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Asylum could be manipulated as Castro did to us a few decades ago. He literally sent all of Cuba's criminals to the US disguised as "political prisoners". He got rid of all his undersirables and we got all the problems.

It could also be the case that some regimes will deliberately increase human rights abuses to pressure those ethnicities out and into Western countries. Just something to consider.

I'm sure the Chinese would like it if the Tibetans moved to the USA.
I really don't see where you are going with this because it has nothing to do with the topic so proffered. But understanding the Clinton issue, I guess you are saying that he would deserve or the women would deserve to be locked in a cellar sedated and raped? That is what you are saying right? The issue with Castro manipulating assylum. You say that he got rid of all his undesirables and you or the U.S., got all the problems. Tell me this, what about some of the policies regarding domestic taxation and some businesses can't operate unless they adopt a family etc., in order to get the rights to operate manipulating this as social responsibility, note this is not Castro this is the America the land of deregulation and freedom. What about Nafta and Apec? What about the tax exemptions? What about a business owner attempting to make a profit but can't because the taxes are so great he can't even support his own family because of the aggregate theory. Dude, I wish you had just answered the question on a serious tip because I really wanted to see some sound debate on the issue, and am actually still seeking the serious debate. All things considering, even if Clinton is so wrong, would he really deserve to be locked in a cellar, sedated and raped? Talk to me Du Bois. We always say in the South, say what you wanna say, no mask are needed in these parts.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Asylum could be manipulated as Castro did to us a few decades ago. He literally sent all of Cuba's criminals to the US disguised as "political prisoners". He got rid of all his undersirables and we got all the problems.

It could also be the case that some regimes will deliberately increase human rights abuses to pressure those ethnicities out and into Western countries. Just something to consider.

I'm sure the Chinese would like it if the Tibetans moved to the USA.
Yes. We love it. Doesn't USA love "human rights" or "western freedom"?? It should give "human rights" and "western freedom" to those who need it, for instance, those millions of monks and nuns in Chinese Tibet and Myanmar, who produce nothing everyday but only consumes. America shall give them a piece of land and name it "New Lhasa". That is what a country who is really advocating "human rights" shall do. Otherwise, it is all hypocrisy.
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Thank you for your response. You say that the world community should give "Human Rights" to those who need it. Come, come now. So exactly what is it that you are advocating? The neo generation isn't asking for an authority to furnish them a mansion or millions, just wanna chance to follow their own simple desires, that's all. Maybe your view is ok with marrying a family member, and you know, that is ok also if thats your perspective on life. But what I am saying, the parents may practice this, but when one doesn't want to, he or she should not be forced and locked into a cellar and sedated and pandered without his or her consent and not even knowing who has had intercourse with them, only to feel the soreness from the prior intercourse, while the family gets the money and pay their bills and other family members bill and will not let them go. Though a person may grow up in this practice doesn't mean he or she has to carry it own. One should be able to choose for his or herself whom they wish to share life with and not have to be forced to provide for a family when they should be able to go about and make way for themselves, and if they choose to help, and if they are able, then it should solely be their decision.
Do you wanna tell me look that you believe in such torture? If you are accused of doing something, or deviating from a culture, would you want to be locked away, isolated and raped and not even the courts will help you? Alot of people in America are known to resort to the vigilante means even when the perceptions are miscontrued. No one should have to endure such pain, no one, no matter what justice a group thinks they deserve. Plus you say that all they do is consume and no input or work. They can't work because they want marry a cousin so the community shuts them out period. They don't just consume, and one should not have to be forced to carry out an absurd tradition to survive. You forget, the neo generation actually does contribute, it's just that the family takes it cause remember they get the bills paid, hoping that the treatment will convert the offspring, sort of a forced Stockholm syndrome. But I don't no-one will ever come to love this treatment and the oppressor.

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