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03-27-2008, 09:34 AM
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And there I was thinking he wore thongs (now... allow the kind of thongs I'm referring too. {grin})
About the English word as in 'tits'... yup, you're quite correct there old chap. {that's grin two}
But we are getting off topic, albeit in a nice way.
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03-27-2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas
Whats "DV and DC"? Sorry I don't understand.
Isn't that a bit of an overreaction?
To hate entire Germany (or maybe the entire west?) for the unprofessional news coverage of a few channels?
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DC is "digital camara"
DV is "digital video recorder"
understand now?
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03-27-2008, 10:57 AM
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#43 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by winter6126
DC is "digital camara"
DV is "digital video recorder"
understand now?
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Thank you for the explanation. Yes I understand now.
I dont know, from where you have access to those videos, but they also show just a part of reality. I am not in the position to judge them as I dont know them.
What I have heard though was that China closed internet access to certain videos posted on youtube about those incidents.
What I still don't understand is how it can be so easy to hate Germany from one day to another. Do you know Germany at all? Or are you only angry about bad quality news coverage of a few channels? (Mind that the public channel, is not accused of having made errors in the coverage, at least I have not heard anywhere ARD or ZDF mentioned.) But why should you hate the average German because of what a news channel does?
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03-27-2008, 11:08 AM
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Knight
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China Telecom just block Youtube two days.
the Youtube is lifted ban.Chinese can visit it now.
the whole Germany(include media,politicians..etc) is hysterical these days.
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03-27-2008, 11:10 AM
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I think the theory here is simple: you have the power to rule it, you get it.
Those rioters were monks and old landowners and local people abetted by them, the monks and the landowners used to be aristocrats or god of the area, other people were basically slaves, that's how it was 60 years ago.
After communist's took over, land became state owned and monks were asked to become pure monks doing only religion affairs while they used to be the true god there and in charge of everything like what it was in medieval Europe, slaves were freed and legally equalled with them. This of course riled them as did landowners in other areas of China, but they were much better treated than Han ethnic landowners.
In such kind of revolution, the rule is simple and cruel: Give out your land and privileges, or lose your head. This already occurred in many place on earth include most of your countries, I mean other people who comment here.
Since Tibet was virtually uninterrupted while most of China territory was in a trap of constant war and massacre since 1840, they didn't have a clue of what the result will be if they naively refused what a superpower asked.
But the fact that Tibetans still have most of their cultures(especially so many monasteries and monks) remained today is the best example of how well they were treated in the past decades while most other minorities in China even ethnic Han itself lost most of theirs.
That's the history, for now, if these morons continue act like this, they could achieve nothing but certain death, their lives are so boring anyway. Whether Tibet could independent or not depends on how powerful China is. imagining California declare independence, if it's hard to image then think about Quebec, if still no idea then look at Israel, and that's how it works.
About domestic media, they'll do similar jobs in this kind of cases whether they are free or not since patriotism always leading the way, foreign media maybe more objective but you have to take into account that they sometimes have purpose of themselves, this can be revealed by comparing reports from different countries.
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There is a newly filmed TV documentary series called "A Year In Tibet", now airing on BBC 4, you could also download it through some methods you certainly known. It's mostly facts so if you never been there this is a good way to learn it.
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03-27-2008, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by winter6126
the whole Germany(include media,politicians..etc) is hysterical these days.
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Please elaborate a bit for us for you'r making no sense.
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03-27-2008, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas
Thank you for the explanation. Yes I understand now.
I dont know, from where you have access to those videos, but they also show just a part of reality. I am not in the position to judge them as I dont know them.
What I have heard though was that China closed internet access to certain videos posted on youtube about those incidents.
What I still don't understand is how it can be so easy to hate Germany from one day to another. Do you know Germany at all? Or are you only angry about bad quality news coverage of a few channels? (Mind that the public channel, is not accused of having made errors in the coverage, at least I have not heard anywhere ARD or ZDF mentioned.) But why should you hate the average German because of what a news channel does?
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As a chinese I personally don't agree hate Germany in such a strong way, but German leader did something that really hurt us, can you take it easy if China give Hitler a warmly welcome and called him hero? Or what if China is as strong as US?
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03-27-2008, 11:26 AM
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Welcome,one day.i am in 深圳.
let's shake hands.hold our hands to beat Germans.
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03-27-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Oneday
As a chinese I personally don't agree hate Germany in such a strong way, but German leader did something that really hurt us, can you take it easy if China give Hitler a warmly welcome and called him hero? Or what if China is as strong as US?
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If german politicians meeting with Tibetan politicians "hurts" you, then I suggest Chinese need to get their priorities in order. Nationalistic pride is always an obstacle to objective and effective solutions to problems, and thus bad, nomatter in what country it manifests itself. The comparison of the Dalai Lhama to Hitler is pretty pathetic as well I might add.
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03-27-2008, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneday
As a chinese I personally don't agree hate Germany in such a strong way, but German leader did something that really hurt us, can you take it easy if China give Hitler a warmly welcome and called him hero? Or what if China is as strong as US?
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And any foreign leader meeting Dalai Lama anytime particularly now is totally comparable with meeting Sadam at 2002 while US already claimed that he is one of the murder behind the scene.
Although German hold negative attitude toward the Iraq war, but "not fully support" was as far as you can get, wasn't it?
German did that to China, and China had gave its revenge, economically, and that's probably as much as China can do now. So I think it's time to put our focus on who is the next one to meet Dalai and how will things go around it, it seems very likely that someone will, and that will be an interesting topic.
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