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02-07-2008, 01:07 AM
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Dumping money in is part of the problem!! But for th most I agree with you Shirty, Africa must take responsibility for it's own faults and mistakes, like Europe should admit their part in it, and the whole world should help Africa help itself by things like Fair trade etc.
AH
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02-07-2008, 09:53 PM
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Yeah, it does disgust me that the west claims they want "free trade", then screw's Africa on trade deals.... it's almost like they want Africa to stay poor!
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02-09-2008, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Arab League
i think we should first divide Africa into Arab and Sub-Saharan africa, i mean, the Arab states in Africa dont have that much of problems compared with other African nations...
Egypt for example is much richer then countries such as Burundi, Tanzania and Madagascar, the main reason i think is that the North has always been developing, thousands of years ago, and has been intouch with the outside world more then Africa, another reason for this i think is that the Majority of Northen Africans are Arab, Sunni Muslims
while the rest of Africa is fighting over Ethnic power, the North doesnt have that..
The Africans need to get over their Ethnic problems and act as united front to develope their countries, and i agree with shady, the African continent will act much better if it was devided into bigger nations of aroun 8 to 10 states, the smaller ethnic groups will simply fail to fight the rest of the minorities... if a country is created of several minorities, it is harder for them to persecute each others, since the law should include all minorities...
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Just read the above quote, this person is from there and obviously knows whats going on. Was going to say somewhat the same, but couldn't put it any better.
Will say, sure, some of Africa has been exploited in recent history by the "white man." But, sorry, thats not the problem today. I'm sure it didn't help any however. The countries in Africa that are struggling have been in civil war for years, and thats the problem.
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02-09-2008, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shirty
Africa is poor because they have too much tribal fighting and drama.
Yes, they were exploited by "the white man" at various points... but now they are being exploited by their fellow black men instead.
Europeans should not get the blame any more. They dump huge amounts of cash into the place for little return.
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That makes absolutely no sense.
This continent was oppressed, and fought over for years and years, decades, centuries on how it should be split up among various Imperialistic European countries. To say that they shouldn't get the blame any more is simply a vague argument and wasn't a great statement to make either.
The European Imperialists dug the country into a big hole, and they're unable to fill the void to get out of it. Plus conflict diamonds, apartheid, partiality, AIDS and other modern day issues once existent and still in existence are only contributing to the problem.
Greed, and corruption are two very well known motives that can further explain the state Africa is in.
Saying Europeans should not get the blame anymore is absolute hypocrisy. They won't get the blame anymore once they get Africa out of the hole.....in my books. 
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02-12-2008, 12:14 AM
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Current problems are caused by corruption and tribalism.
I don't know how the europeans can be blamed for current corruption amongst Africans.
Why do you think Europe should "get africa out of the hole" ? Europe has spent billions in aid money, which africans just piss into the wind for no return.
Do you think Europe should pour money into Africa for the next 100 years? the next 1000 years?
Why did you mention apartheid? the apartheid regime left the ANC with first world infrastructure and a good economy. The ANC are well on their way to destroying the place.
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02-12-2008, 06:00 AM
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Correction - a first world infrastructure in some places of the country, and those places happen to be where the whites live. Just a note.
AH
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“The subject no longer has to be mentioned by name. Someone is sick. Someone else is feeling better now. A friend has just gone back into the hospital. Another has died. The unspoken name, of course, is AIDS.”
“From the point of view of the pharmaceutical industry, the AIDS problem has already been solved. After all, we already have a drug which can be sold at the incredible price of $8, 000 an annual dose, and which has the added virtue of not diminishing the market by actually curing anyone.”
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