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Old 10-08-2007, 02:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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100 die in Sudan army attacks: Africa: News: News24


Africa is trying to solve it own problems, and it is difficult as many of you would know, to do peacekeeping missions.

I have said many times before that we do not want the US or EU to do peacekeeping here, we will do it ourselves, but we WILL need help in training soldiers, as there is a huge difference between peacekeeping and fighting.

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Old 10-08-2007, 06:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder if the attack on the AU really was carried out by Janjaweed helped by the army? The Janjaweed obviously, but if it was the army as well, then this means the government really isn't going to make things easy.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I think it was as the attacks on the villages. So the army is not directly invloved, but they give intell to the Janjaweed. there are a lot of reports that shortly before Janjaweed attacks, Sudaese army helicopters and planes fly over vilages. So maybe army support was in this form??

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Old 10-09-2007, 02:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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The western world, specially Europe, should never have started messing with Africa and its ressources in the first place - eventhough that goes back hundreds of year.

Nowadays large parts of Africa basically cannot substist without foreign aid. And the hilarious, if it wasn't so sad, fact is that the west profits EVEN from this so called humanitarian aid. Instead of having the farmers throw away or dispose of the corn "not good enough for Europeans", the EU takes it off their hand and sends it down to Africa - arguably even further crippling the developement of many african nations, since no sustainability is produced.

All the "Peacekeeping" forces down there are really just a facade to try and please the international community. Let alone the french have, even in very recent history, caused more damage in regions like the CAR than they could ever hope to undo - and I honestly believe that they'r not even really interested in doing so.

Things ain't gonna change until a strong African Union is formed and competent leaders, interested in developing their countries and not just playing puppets for european ex-colonial-powers or plunder the land for their own gains, start stepping up to the plate.

This issue goes waaay deeper than just that small little peacekeeping force being sent to the Darfur region. Not having UNO troops down there will, in my opinion, not make anything better - such a force will atelast try to create a sort of buffer between the "bad rebels" and the "benevolent government".
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1.Africa problems cant be solved,ones this African goverments fall apart the people turn to they villages and chiefs for basic help food housing and protection,meaning they are grouping,meaning they protect and feed only the group members thats why you get this ethnic wars.
2.It seems to me that Islam what to take over Africa,the janjaweed crossed Chad they even got major in fluence and contacts in Keney,Congo an dif not mstaken a hand in Rwanda
3.Should blam ethe white people to much it seems to me that all these war lords benefits well of mining companies.
4.The janjaweed are the strong hand for the Islamic freedom front.
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Am I the first to say that there are a ethnic war taking place in Zimbabwe between the Shona(Mugabe) and the Matebele people,hope not.
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Am I the first to say that there are a ethnic war taking place in Zimbabwe between the Shona(Mugabe) and the Matebele people,hope not.
The people of Zimbabwe can't afford an ethnic war. They are too busy trying to feed themselves while their power-made president bleeds the lands and lives like a king. There is no ethnic war in Zim, just a lot of hungry people.
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And Blue, christians has had a great hand in causing problems in Africa. What about the Bishop in Rwanda, who helped the genocide?

Islam is doing horrible things in Afirca, but they are not alone!

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Old 10-14-2007, 07:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The people of Zimbabwe can't afford an ethnic war. They are too busy trying to feed themselves while their power-made president bleeds the lands and lives like a king. There is no ethnic war in Zim, just a lot of hungry people.
I don't think that's entirely true. All the top dogs of Zanu PF are Shona, while many of the leaders of the democratic opposition are Matabele. I think that, while the average person might be too desperate to care, Mugabe and his cronies may still think in these terms to an extent.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
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But, it is quite clear that the opposition probably DID get the majority of the votes in the last election, which means they must have strong support amongst te Matabele as well. I have never read or heard of the current crisis being discussed in ethnic terms, except ofcourse the pushing out of white-zZimbabweans

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