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Old 08-14-2007, 07:14 PM
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Is that pity?
I don't know. Is it? Or is it not? Which do you think? Why do you think this?
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I don't know. Is it? Or is it not? Which do you think? Why?
I’ve no time for speculations....
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I’ve no time for speculations....
Well, you were interested enough to ask.
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Well, you were interested enough to ask.
I asked because I don’t want to make any assumptions.
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:24 AM
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Hey africanhope.

I understand what you are saying. Do you think the West still exhibit control in such a way to inhibit African nations to control in their own way? If so, why would you agree with Bono's exertions, who is a westerner? Thanks.
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Not necessarily true. She is describing the typical American college kids. The fact that you pay attention to the little details is irrelevant. Besides, she said “My aversion to college kids jumping onto fashionable social causes nearly caused me to walk on, but her next shout stopped me.” She never said “white college kids”, but rather “college kids”. I guess you see everything in white and black heh?
She gave special attention to the students blonde hair and blue eyes. Why is that relevant? Then after pointing out that the student in white, immediately degrades the student in the most despicable way possible, taking away her genuine concern for other human beings and replacing that with a cynical lie: that she only cares for other people (black people in this case) because it is trendy. The author is a human wasteland and a racist.

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Are you saying an African isn’t entitled to have pride?
Wrong question. Is pride for middle class Africans more important than the lives of Africans?


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It’s something that has more to do with race than nationality, besides I've also mentioned African countries and regimes which had been used and abused during the cold war by Western Nations.
At the end of the day, your racial concerns are irrelevant. You concern yourself too much with image and semantics and not enough with the welfare of African people.


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First, I would like if Web stated what his intentions are, rather than you stating what you believe he might be saying. Second, there’s on one who’s concealing their communal obligations.
My intentions can be obviously seen from the content of my posts. I will not play this racial McCarthyism game, whereby everyone who is not a black African must jump through some special hoop. You want to know my intentions, you want to make me jump through some hoops, you jump through the hoop too. What are YOUR intentions for Africa?


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The West feels guilty for Colonialism, manipulating African regimes during the Cold War to their political advantage( then providing them with the arms to slaughter their populace), and of course their wealth. Their aid should not be shunned, but neither should it be mindlessly lapped up - for not all help is beneficial in the long term, and may serve to prevent the country from developing required infrastructure, and make it reliant upon others for key resources.

Other than being more selective with the aid they receive, they can take advantage of their vast mineral resources, invest into the huge tourism industry, and tap into numerous niche markets.
Forget those damn celebrities. Most of them dont do what they pretend because they really want to help Africans who suffer and would need help. (Dont get me wrong, thats by no way all Africans, not even remotely probably). They just do it for postive PR.

The western help was for a long time totally mislead and ineffective. Perhaps its still to a certain extend. But I think things are getting better in this regards. Modern projects are not imposed on Africans anymore, but are concipated that locals are educated in order to become the ones to help themeselves + gets a financial basis to get something done.

Thats help to help themselves. Where Westerners are involved in the beginning, probably right from the start with assistance of Africans who know the situation best. And later on there enough skilled local project managers, who also be able to run the whole thing in future. At best some self runner concepts where locals can show a good concept to others and all throught this act improve their state of living.

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But who says that it has to be westerners? I think the optimal thing is when there is a trustworthy (=noncorrupt, as everywhere on the world you can't trust everyone, not in the west nor anywhere else) African developement helper and help him financially if he needs more money for his work.

Of course the best projects are those that dont need large finances, they are a great addition as well. Its not Africa but in Bangladesh I think one created a concept for honest credits that really help out the poorest of the poor to get on the own feet. He got justifiedly the noble prize for his developement work. And he is not a westerner, nor white.


I dont think that it helps if anyone goes to Africa who thinks he is something better than the Africans...
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Slarti, please prove to me that Angelina Jolie adopted an African child only to get attention.


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