bluebret

How long before South African whites will enjoy refugee status.I read of some one case filed in USA or Canada I think.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

Huh?

bluebret

The woman only have to proof that she is targeted as a person that belong to a group(apartheid regime)

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I highly recommend that you try to say a bit more with your posts. It is hard to understand what you mean when you make one sentence posts. Try writing more to describe what it is you are trying to say.


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bluebret

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April 16, 2007

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04/15/07 - A Canadian Reader Warns Against Romanticizing Immigration

Today’s Letter: An Afrikaner Reader Points Out That Some Refugees Are Genuine
Re: Today’s Letter: A Canadian Reader Warns Against Romanticizing Immigration

From: An Afrikaner Reader (With Relatives In The New South Africa)

I’m a white South African from that tribe known as the Afrikaner or Boer, living in voluntary exile. I would like to object to James Schipper's letter stating that all immigrants are economic immigrants. Many white South Africans (1 million out of originally 5.5 million = 18%) left South Africa due to excessive violence and affirmative action. We are literally being forced out of the country, and the African National Congress governing party has publicly declared that whites are no longer welcome there. Many others would also like to leave but are trapped with a useless passport and perhaps too little education or money. Some have decided to try and stick it out in the vain hope that the tide may turn. Western countries love to invite non-white immigrants but generally refuse to take the South African whites, who are leftovers of their colonial past.

It’s obvious that apartheid wasn’t a viable long-term solution, but installing a former terrorist organization and expecting diligent governance was really naïve. Especially when the US State Department knew that Zimbabwe, that former role model, was already on its way down. There were many other viable political solutions which would have guaranteed a relatively safe existence for the white minority without infringement of black rights, but all of these were systematically brushed off the table by the “international community” (US State Dept, EU, UN, NGO’s, corporate businesses, and of course the black caucus in the US). It had to be the ANC.

The result is that a very sizable section of the productive population of South Africa has voluntarily emigrated even though they loved South Africa. And it’s mostly not because they abhor black faces, since the real level of interaction between blacks and whites in South Africa was always higher than that of the US, due to the demographics of that country. The lack of a political future, violent crime, disintegration of the infrastructure and services, cultural discrimination and workplace discrimination are taking their toll.

But somehow no serious western journalist has pondered this situation. The usual read is about the horrors of apartheid or more fawning over Mandela.

So there are possibly 1 million involuntary immigrants to subtract from the number described in Mr. Schipper's letter.

Otherwise, congratulations on vdare.com, one of the few internet sites I enjoy visiting.

[VDARE.COM NOTE: Oddly enough, when George Washington wrote "I had always hoped that this land might become a safe and agreeable asylum to the virtuous and persecuted part of mankind, to whatever nation they might belong”, he was talking about Dutchmen—ancestors of the Afrikaners. But try telling Jack Kemp that.]


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bluebret

ok here is the one about the woman,its the pdf file rigth at the bottem

VDARE.com: Blog Articles » White Refugees And Culture

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

Your link had this part included:

I think that this is effectively saying that the South Africans who fought against apartheid are "terrorists." This seriously hurts the credibility of the entire argument of anyone associated with these aggrieved white South Africans. The whites who imposed apartheid were terrorists, not the blacks who fought against apartheid.


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Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

So basically, what the PDF file says is that White South Africans should be allowed to emigrate to the United States because they are supposedly being discriminated against in South Africa?

I'd be interested to hear what some South African posters think about this.


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africanhope

1. I would like this womens proof that the ANC said the whites are not welcome. They have said the right oposite many times, but I have never heard them say this, and if they did, it would be a HUGE story in the newspapers, here and overseas!!

2. I do not feel unwelcome in my country. Some other Afrikaners do, yes, but when you talk to them, it becomes very clear that it is people who have difficulty adjusting to the loss of power, a power they should not have wielded in the first place.

3. I don't have it with me now, I'll try and find the stats, but on avarage the white South African is economically better of now than before 1994. Also white Afrikaners have more rights now, than they did before 1994. Whites did not lose one right with the comming of the New South Africa, but they did gain a few.

4. I know there was a case where a Afrikaner family asked for asylum in the USA. It was rejected, quite rightly. They sighted crime and Affirmative action. But whites are not the only victims of crime in this country, so that is no argyument, and many countries, including the USA has Affirmative action, so a bit strange asking asylum for something the country you aretrying to get into also has!

5. It is mentioned many times in Afrikaans newspapers who the people who moan and critize South Africa the most in the newspapers (I mean the ones here) are people who fled (sorry, voluntarily left) the country. We just try and get on with the bussiness oif building this great nation. We have trouble, but much less than many other countries.

So, in short - rubbish.

AH

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dahermit

What about the stories we in the US have heard about white farmers being murdered for their land? Are they not true?
What about the interview with the woman (cannot remember her name) who was the wife of the journalist who wrote the book that demonstrated the cruelty of the apartheid system called: "Cry Freedom". She left SA and stated in interviews that the end of apartheid just resulted in discrimination and maltreatment of the blacks replaced with discrimination and maltreatment of the whites; not equality. And she has left SA for in fear for her life. Is all this not true?