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Old 04-02-2008, 06:50 PM
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No African hope, you must leave all your money And valubles , and just leave South africa now.You are living on black Zulu land without permission!, that is a grave offense.!

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Old 04-02-2008, 06:53 PM
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No African hope Baron, you must leave all your money And valubles , and just leave South africa now.You are living on black Zulu land without permission!, that is a grave offense.!
What's the point in posting if you just use it as a soapbox and ignore all the arguments that derail your rhetoric?
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:56 PM
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Racism, whether it is black against whites in S Africa or whites against blacks in Alabama, is morally unsupportable.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:41 AM
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Ah, so we give you facts, and you answer with hate speech, wich is also not well researched at all. See. I do not live in the Kwa-Zulu Natal province of South Africa, but in the Norht West Province. This was never part of the Zulu Kingdom, but is where the SetTswana live. I am not living on Zulu land at all.

The town i live in was build on land bought form the BaTlokwe tribe of the Tswana nation in 1838. The treaty for this is on open dispaly in the City Hall, if you want to come over and see it. Quite a nice historical document. My black SeTswana colueges I shatre an office with, are quite happy for me to stay here. So is my Zulu boyfriend. I have worked hard for this country, and even though it is very easy for me to leave the country, I will not, as I am needed here in my bleoved country. We are facing our problems, and solving them, together as one nation. We do not need forgeigners with no understnading of our hiistory, present or future to try and spread hate here.

We have given you facts. Please answer hose, or I will from this point fihter just see you as a troll.

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Old 04-03-2008, 12:35 PM
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You people fail to see my point.Whites who claim to be African,or who cliam land
obtained the land by means of murder, deceit, and out right theivery!.They were not indigenous to the other general population of the regeion,and had many differnet and alien cultural rules, when compared to the majority population of the land.They can not claim to be Africans or claim any of their land.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:59 PM
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No, it is you who fail to understand. Black south Africans arrived the same time as white south Africans. They can no more claim this land. It is the land of the Bushmen.

ANd you fail to answer then what you then make of whites in America, and blacks in America for that matter, as, accrording to your way of thinking, they too should return to Europe and Africa.

But why I ask you this again, I do not know, as you have not answerd one question baked by facts put to you.

And lastly - Luckiliy it is not you, or any other person not form Sa who decides on my right to live here, ithis is the decision of my fellow south Africans and myself. And my fellow South Africans, white, black, Indian and colourd have made it clear, as I ahve, this is my country too, and here I will stay, no matter what some New yorker thinks of that.

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Old 04-03-2008, 05:47 PM
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Listen to me Africanhope, You are not an indigenous race
unto the African continent,That is point number1.Number2.Your ancestors gained entry long after Blacks were on that land and laid claim to said land,and are the righfull owners to all South African land.3.your European ancestors commited heinous crimes,ie,Murder,Rape,looting pilaging and burning, againts the Black indigeouns majority population.I beg of you,leave now from South Africa, go to Australia or back to Europe,as many of your countryman and Woman have fled.Don't get caught up in the comming blood bath between Blacks and Whites that is comming to South Africa.!!

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Old 04-03-2008, 05:54 PM
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Actually the entire human race originated in Africa............ if you go back far enough in your family tree everyone is of African decent.
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Old 04-03-2008, 05:55 PM
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Listen to me Africanhope robber Baron European, You are not an indigenous race
unto the African continent,That is point number1.Number2.Your ancestors gained entry long after Blacks were on that land and laid claim to said land,and are the righfull owners to all South African land.3.your European ancestors commited heinous crimes,ie,Murder,Rape,looting pilaging and burning, againts the Black indigeouns majority population.I beg of you,leave now from South Africa, go to Australia or back to Europe,as many of your countryman and Woman have fled.Don't get caught up in the comming blood bath between Blacks and Whites that is comming to South Africa.!!
Oh right, ones skin color and bone structure define who should own land now. Great point there.
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:53 PM
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Well another point I must make is,you never hear of Blacks,or indians invading
Euroupe to colonize its indigenous population,do you?Why are Euroupeans always the ones going to other lands beyound Euroupe to occupy land outside of Euroupe?.Can one of you European imperialist answer this question for me?
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