Let us look at White European actions
in Africa as a whole.#1 The Belgians murdered and mutilates hundreds of thousands of indegenous blacks in the the Congo, #2the Portuguease slaughter
blacks in Angola,the #3Germans commit Genocide in Namibia,#4 the French enslave and slaughter thousands in Algeria
and in Senegal.#5the Italians invade and
murder Eithiopians during WWII, a African
country that had nothing to do with WWII
was invaded unilaterally.The British invade south Africa and Zimbabwe and murder many thousand of Black Zulu. And some of you are stating that Whites should live among
Black Africans?, please the White race history on the African continent is Terrible, if I were White I would Stay in
Euroupe just for my own personal safety.
Black African do not forget the past as easily as us westerners.They hold grudges for many years according to what has been done to them.Please, I ask White Europeans think about reparations for Black Africans that you and your White European countrymen have stolen from and continue to steal
from!!.

I know, what Europeans have done is terrible...but the most thing Africans concern is getting food on their tables and try to live in peace...
I live at a studentshome with a lot of foreigners, and every day I discuss politics with Africans from around the continent...
I'm very direct so I ask questions like this...
They awnsered me: "History is history...your governements give us the chance to come study here to improve our country and our lives...
We know what you did was wrong, but so do you"

So to say that Africans have a grudge against Europeans is not true...
They forgived us in a way, but they didn't forget...and that's make a huge difference...
Most European governements know this, and that's why we make the greatest effort to try to bring stabilty, democracy, and prosperty to the continent...not only because it's the right thing to do, but also out of a feeling of guilt...

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[Qoute=janpor] They forgived us in a way, but they didn't forget...and that's make a huge difference...
Most European governements know this, and that's why we make the greatest effort to try to bring stabilty, democracy, and prosperty to the continent...not only because it's the right thing to do, but also out of a feeling of guilt...[/quote]

How can you make a false statement (That's why we make the greatest
effort to TRY to bring stability, democracy, and prosperty)that's crap.
Most Eurpean governments is just as bad as this country's Government.
The one way I see democracy anywhere in Africa, Is for other continents
to stay out of any Africa government business, due to the fact that your
so-called stability was not around to protect Rwanda, and the rest of
the African countries against the Genocide.

Hell yeah Many of the Eurpean countries should feel guilt for not
helping, and now here you are posting because it's the right thing
to do. Your post reminds me of the Iraq/United Snakes aka States
so-called relationship. At first the United States bombed everything
in Iraq, and look at the War we're fighting now because we are feeling
guilt.

In closing, After serving three years in Viet Nam I can see why this
country should also feel guilty, and that's because we like to start
confusion where there's peace. Personally the Citizens all across,
and from the North to South Africa have not forgiven anyone.

There is a big difference between being invited into a country, and
invading a Country without permission.

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I understand that we all have to move ahead and let go of the past and look towards the future.I feel Euroupe and
America have a lot to offer African countries in terms of infrastructure,
Medical health care, Food production,
irrigation and farming, mineing and extracting valuble minierals from the
African soil, yes I belive we need to focus
on these issues.But many American and
European countries have made unequal
agreements and contracts that give them
an unfare advantage.Lets make these deals more equitable and beneficial to
the African countries inwhich they are
made.

Hypnox, you seem to ignorethe fact that Britians biggiest war in Africa, in which the most innocent people died, was the South-African War, against the Afrikaner, who is white. Britians policy was not racist but Jingoist. They would fight whomever they could to build their empire.


Alo I fail to undertand this forgeign view that there are only Zulu in SA. Your way of putting it (British invade SA and Zim and kill thousands of zulu) is not accurate. The British did not invade, but 'bought' the Cape Colony from the Dutch. They then pushed their borders east, leading to 11 wars, not with the Zulu, but the Xhosa. The Voortrekkers fled the British, and established a republic in Natal, after defeating Dingaan, king of the Zulu. Then the British came, and took this republic, made it a seperate colony. Only many years later did wars (I think two) break out between the British and the Zulu.

The north of the country became two Afrikaner Republics, and was then invaded (twice, but the first time the Republics won the war) by the British.

Still, yes, the British were empire builders that killed many, but yourway of putting history needed correction.

And Zulu's are but one of many groups in SA, and tey are not in Zim.

AH

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Africanhope, You are correct about the Zulu nation, and the Zulu
Nation is one of the original strongest african tribes. This is the
Black history that I discovered about the Zulu War with the Anglos.

The Anglo-Zulu War continues to fascinate a great cross section of people
from many parts of the world. What started 130 years ago as a colonial
conflict in a remote part of Southern Africa, resulting in humiliating defeats
and resounding victories for both sides, has grown into a mini industry. It is
an industry - if that is the right word - that not only promotes tourism to areas
where support is welcomed, but helps us to remember the virtues of honour and
courage that still resound at the mention of names such as Isandlwana and Rorke's
Drift. It was much a war of heroes that prompted a Zulu commander to remark of a
British fight to the last man: "They fell like stones, every man in his place"; and the
Commander in Chief of the British Army to remark "Nowhere in Central or Southern
Africa did such a disciplined force of courageous men exist as lay at the command
of the Zulu King".

The url site to back my reseach up is
Zulu Wars - Home One thing about it the Anglo-Saxons caught hell
battling the Zulu Nation, and that's how Blacks should be today when it
comes down to fighting for our freedom of speech plus other rights violations.
The way most Pollywood movies end where the white man calls in
more to outnumber whoever they are fighting against, and usually
to prevent more killing Africans surrender.

The genocide in Rwanda was supported by outside whites mostly
the United Nations, and other so-called peace-keeping troops.
This is the only way Whites will have a future in Africa, and whats
so funny is Whites won't admit that they came from South Africa
in the beginning. This is where the propagenda comes from about
Africans still wear bones in their noses, and still live in mud huts,
and that's a bunch of Pollywood bs.
Knowledge to Knowledge..we are all equal.
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To Hypnox
How old are you? Because the hate that you have for whites is justified in the older gen not the new.

I read a lot of news coming out of South Africa. From an outsiders perspective, I've noticed:

1. Large amounts of racism on both sides

2. A white person killing blacks is a racist attack, yet white farmers being slaughtered is not a racist attack. Why on earth not?

3. Affirmative action is largely a failure. AA policies have caused an exodus of Eskom. One Western Australian company alone now has over 300 ex-Eskom staff.

4. Huge amounts of corruption at all levels, yet nothing seems to be done about it?

5. The government largely ignoring the crime problem. The brutality of crime in SA shocks me. Why do criminals there torture and rape people before robbing or killing them? they are animals, and should be executed. These sort of crimes are unheard of in civilised countries.

I really don't understand why the government isn't leveraging their white minority more... they contribute huge amounts to the economy. Instead of aggressively attacking this group, why not try to give it some protection and take advantage of their skills?

Doing so would increase foreign investment. That would flow on to all areas of SA, which would reduce poverty levels.

Driving them out of the country only creates a skills crisis and causes infrastructure to crumble.

I'm unsure of why shirty is lying about Africanhope. Can you provide an example of Africanhope's "directing so much hate against whites in SA"? I'd hate to think that your false accusations was merely your directing of white nationalism and hate against people who don't believe in your white nationalism.

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I'm not lying at all, I merely got two posters mixed up. Sorry AfricanHope, I thought this was your comment, but it was Hypnox's instead!