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Old 10-24-2007, 03:48 AM   #30 (permalink)
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They are also rare which is what makes them side effects and not primary effects.
No, I said they are common... They can't be both common and rare. Irritability, paranoia, anxiety, impaired cognition and distorted perception are all common side effects of marijuana, as listed in the many sources I've provided. The symptoms/side-effects listed as resulting from heavier doses or certain other factors such as predisposition are psychosis schizophrenia, hallucinations, etc.

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Then are you for decriminalization? Legalization makes it a legal product to sell decriminalization makes it a legal product to possess. Just because a person has a mental illness does not make them a violent person. The cannabis surfaces a dormant condition over time, how is this a threat to non-users?
Don't resort to strawman arguments Thoreau, I know you better than that. A substance--used for nothing more than recreational selfish indulgence--that unnaturally induces a mental illness--is not right. It's not logical to allow something like that to remain easily accessible, no. Society has every reason to discourage the use of a substance that manipulates human brain chemistry in a way that induces mental instability--in both short term and long term degrees.


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ever heard of civil disobedience? Also many non-users are tired of their tax dollars going to irraticate a plant.
Yeah, I've heard of civil disobedience. I've also heard of logic. Protesting the drug ban is illogical. It's not oppression, it's about the furthest thing away from oppression. The drug laws are completely reasonable. Recreational drugs are obviously not needed for any aspect of human life whatsoever. It's been proven time and time again that they cause more damage than good. There are scenarios that call for civil disobedience and this, my friend, is not one of them.

Your rights are not being infringed. You are not being oppressed by any human, moral, or constitutional standards. That's the only problem with the "civil disobedience" theory. Guess who's to blame for tax dollars going to the drug effort? Drug users. There you have it. Drug users are to blame for that little factor, they're the ones who fail to make the very easy choice in the first place I find it ironic that you'd somehow try to blame that on society.

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It is the only time cannabis was not criminalized. Which brings up the fact that cannabis has been used by humans for thousands of years but only in this century has it been prohibited. If cannabis made non-users live such a hell as you claimed earlier then why was it not prohibited earlier? And no the claims made to make it illegal in the 1930s were not based on science.
It's just like the whole cigarette industry story. No one knew that cigarettes were poisonous. Smokers probably figured that they were coughing from the cigarettes, but non-smokers probably didn't have much of a clue. There was little to no information in circulation in the media about what was actually in cigarettes when they first came out. No one knew about secondhand smoke. There were no big bright surgeon general warning labels pasted to cigarette cartons. Then, after word got out, after studies were done, people found out. It's the same way with marijuana. People probably experienced it, but they most likely wouldn't have known what caused it.


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The least this country should do is have scientists review cannabis scientifically and come up with a conclusion on how we should approach this issue. Oh wait we already did, the infamous schaeffer report that was buried by Nixon, the report recomended that marijuana not be criminalized.
That doesn't really prove anything. One scientist said "lets legalize marijuana." That never makes a difference in a nation anyway. That's not an argument. The opinion of one man wouldn't end up getting that kind of drug legislation passed. Hell, nothing would, as our politicians are much too sensible to give in to that garbage.
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