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Old 10-16-2007, 12:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
Chesty Puller
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So your saying Christians need special treatment? A don’t buy it. Everyone is subject to the law, having a certain religious belief gives you no special privileges. You can pray all you want to, if they outlaw it, just break the law, but I doubt that will happen. I think most laws that my pass will negate bias religious ceremony in public places.

No one said we need special treatment, maybe I did not do a good enough of job of making myself clear here. Christians should have EQUAL rights to practice their religion. I couldnt Agree more "Everyone is subject to the law".

My point is this, christians are being discriminated against. The pledge is outlawed in school now "one nation under god" is offensive to someone. (Need I remind you how long the pledge has been said, and that it was not an issue before the last 15 years when immigrants decided to rewrite our laws )

As much as I dislike this man President Clinton said it best

"Nothing in the First Amendment converts our public schools into religion-free zones, or requires all religious expression to be left behind at the schoolhouse door. While the government may not use schools to coerce the consciences of our students, or to convey official endorsement of religion, the public schools also may not discriminate against private religious expression during the school day.
Religion is too important in our history and our heritage for us to keep it out of our schools...[i]t shouldn't be demanded, but as long as it is not sponsored by school officials and doesn't interfere with other children's rights, it mustn't be denied."

No one is forcing you to say the pledge. Praying at a football game offended the jewish people or the muslims we cant to do that anymore. Tell me how Christians are being treated fairly and equally under the law. If a jewish person said a prayer in public and was asked to stop because he was offending someone that person would be branded "Anti Semetic" and probably sued. If one of the muslims I work with (and respect) was told "im sorry Ahmager you cant place your rug down facing mecca and pray anymore someone finds it offensive." Would this be fair and just? This country used to have thick enough skin for all and it was made of stronger metal where people didnt get offended at the drop of a hat or sue for everything. I want my Country back.

If my son wants to be able to pray before he eats lunch at school he is told he can not because someone finds it offensive. You cant wear Crosses at some schools now, nor give out Christmas cards or you get expelled. Someone has to draw the line between "Im offending you because your beliefs differ from my own" and "Your violating my rights to practice my religion. That was my point. People in this country need to except diffrences in others (its what made this country great) instead of trying to outlaw everything that does not fit into their perfect code of ethics. This country was great once and still is to some extent but the erosion of personal freedoms, the intolerance for anyones beliefs but their own has brought this country low.

If you dont see the double standard here I will go to greater lengths to explain it better my friend. Equal treatment is all I want. This nation is fast becoming "One nation under politically correct" regardless of the way it flagrantly disregards my rights or my sons right to stand up for and practice what we believe.

Chesty

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