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Old 09-19-2007, 10:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
Luke
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Originally Posted by Chris33 View Post

Finally, Taiwan propaganda are coming out for the UN bid. I have been waiting and wondering what takes them so long since it is already very close to the UN meeting.

History background: Taiwan was conquered by Kangxi Emperor and incorporated into the Chinese Qing Dynasty. Hundreds of years later, Chinese Qing dynasty lost the first Sino-Japanese War in 1895 and Taiwan was given as Japanese colony for 50 years till 1945. Republic of China took it back after Japan was nuked. Three years later, the Nationalist leading party of Republic of China lost the civil war to Communists in Mainland China. Theoretically and legally, the governments in Beijing and Taipei are still in civil war status. North and South Korea at least have a truce pact. But Beijing and Taipei do not even have that for their civil wars. Both governments can continue to war without any war declarations. The end of the story.

If the people in Taiwan want independence from the Chinese civil wars, they have to win the battles and die for it. Take your American daddy for example. The 13 North America states won their wars against the Great Britain, so they became independent. On the other hand, the southern US states lost their great independence wars against the northern US states, so they have no chance to be independent.

Playing Comminism card is useless. Informed EuroAmericans know what is happening in China is mostly raw capitalism like the Great Britain in the 17th, 18th and 19th century.

Playing "Democracy" and "Freedom" cards is futile. For developing countries, "Democracy" and "Freedom" are merely traps set up by the developed countries. The Ruling Elites in EuroAmerica also know very well about that. British slave traders and opium dealers got rich by their massive conquered colonies under their Queens' "mercy"; France has been swaying between empires and republics for centuries; Germany was never significant until Von Bismack's great policy of "Iron and Blood"; Japan's enlightening Meji Reform has to thank their great kings. America gradually built up by massive slave labor and genocides to rob other people's lands. Even for Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea, they all get rich under the great dictatorships. In front of the history, playing "Democracy" card is a joke.

Playing sympathy card is the best card for Taiwan to attract the support from the human-right fundamentalists among western liberals. However, the human-right fundamentalists can hardly be the mainstream even in the left wing politics, how can anybody expect them to control the EuroAmerican decision makers.

Playing Chinese aggression card is not going to scare intellectuals. Even during the Imperial Chinese era, Han Chinese dynasties only emphasized on the unification of China Proper. Manchuria, Mongolia, Central Asia and Tibet were not originally conquered through force by Han Chinese dynasties. Mongols and Manchus conquered them and Han people only inherit them. Chinese ideology of Confuciaism, Taoism and Buddhism is much more peaceful and much less aggressive than Western ideology from monotheist Chrisitian doctrines.
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