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Old 08-08-2007, 02:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Islam is barbaric! Seventh century barbaric! Whereas for centuries Christianity and Judaism were also barbaric and held back the progress of mankind for centuries like Islam, they eventually both underwent reformations that allowed for the further evolution of mankind into modernity. The harmful and inferior aspects of Christianity and Judaism were cast aside while the beneficial and superior aspects were retained.


They "reformed" by picking and choosing which parts of their holy book to ignore and which parts to follow. It does not erase the fact that there are many, many references to the horrible treatment of women and the fact that women are less-than in comparison to men in those texts. They are just ignored (by many).

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Further, the holy books of Christianity and Judaism never purported themselves to be the direct, divine, and immutable word of God, so they never were understood to be taken literally, whereas, on the other hand, the holy book of Islam, the Quran, has always been said to be the direct, divine, and immutable word of God and so can only be taken literally.
I have never heard that the holy books of Christianity and Judaism are not the direct, divine, and immutable word of God. Never. This is the absolute first time I am hearing this. There is soooo much debate saying that it IS... that I don't actually even know where you are getting that idea from.

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Islam in effect is a bastardization of both Christianity and Judaism and to make his religion supreme over all other religions, Mohammed claimed that he was God’s final prophet and that his message superseded the messages of all other prophets before him and also that there would be no prophets after him. To further make his religion supreme above all others, Mohammed also claimed that his message was the direct word of God as delivered to him by the archangel Gabriel.
Whatever Islam may be or may not be... it's basis and it's holy texts hold the same information about the treatment of women as the Bible and other Christian/Jewish holy texts. Again, my point is... Christians and Jews simply have chosen over time which parts to ignore. I'm not hearing anything that is rejecting what I'm saying.. Only excuses as to why Islam is somehow worse (because they stick to their texts instead of ignoring certain parts)... and also this weird claim that you're making that Christians and Jews don't believe the Bible to be the divine and immutable word of God.
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