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Old 08-05-2007, 03:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
Xibit
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Originally Posted by rodog View Post
This is sad. Your cherry picking of evidence accomplishes nothing....
Sorry, Rodog. This thread is about MLK's beliefs as they relate to whether he was for or against AA type preferences/programs. Now, if you believed I cherry picked something then it is incumbent upon you to highlight a number of things MLK said/wrote that shows how he didn't support AA type preferences/programs.

That's the discussion here. Feel free to join in without bringing in all your baggage from other threads. The only issue here is where MLK stood on the issue. So, if MLK believed in race-based discrimination... sobeit. You got a problem with it? Take it up with him. Maybe he'll be receptive to your
"GET OFF YOUR AZZ" speech. I'm sure that applies to him (Colin Powell and others) too, right?

And, really... I'm trying to figure out if you even know what you're trying to argue. Exactly what about this information re: MLK do you think is suppose to be "evidence" selectively chosen to further the pro-AA argument?

How is MLK's views "evidence"?? EXPLAIN THAT... then get to discussing what you know about MLK's views on AA type ideas - i.e. the TOPIC here.
Oh but in all your claims, let's see if you will ever present actual facts (not conjecture, not dictionary references... FACTS) regarding AA causing racial discrimination; FACTS that show how it was, indeed, the race-based application of AA (not to be confused with the GENDER BASED application which, by the Washington State *EVIDENCE* was the PRINCIPAL, most consequential AA application) that EXCLUDED a specific race (or someone from a specific race) from an actual opportunity.

Do that then reconcile THE FACTS you come up with... with your curious little lecture which dismiss RACIAL DISCRIMINATION:

Asians are discriminated against based on their IQ scores and intelligence. That doesn't seem to stop them from making more money and graduating from school more often then whites...


Hmmm.... So I guess racial discrimination isn't a big deal then. Hey, if it doesn't stop you then... [fill in the blanks]

Funny how you're not on this board trying champion the cause of Asian Americans who are, as you acknowledged, being racially discriminated against. Funny how that works and there's no historical and present-day inequality issue in the White/Asian case like there is in the Black/White scenario. Hmmm...


Take a read

Reverse racism, or how the pot got to call the kettle black New Crisis, The - Find Articles

In America "whites once set themselves apart from blacks and claimed privileges for themselves while denying them to others," the author writes. "Now, on the basis of race, blacks are claiming special status and reserving for themselves privileges they deny to others. Isn't one 'bad as the other? The answer is no."


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