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Originally Posted by rodog
Okay. Say that again real nice and loud. Only this time say it like this:
For those who believed Whites are discriminated against by Blacks, e.g., via AA... AA doesn't seem to stop Whites from making more money and graduating from school more often than Blacks; so I don't see what all the fuss is about here.
And the fact that whites discriminate against Asians (as you have clearly pointed out) who don't even apply for AA, doesn't seem to stop Asians from making more money and graduating from school more often then whites now does it. You are the one making a fuss.
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Your response doesn't make sense. You're repeating what you already said and acting as if you can't recognize me using your own logic to say something you obviously never ventured to say or considered.
Now, go ahead. Tell the White posters here that very thing:
AA doesn't seem to stop Whites from making more money and graduating from school more often than Blacks...
so I don't see the argument here.
Don't discriminate. Disseminate. Preach the same message across the board.
Let's see you do that or explain the reason for you "it doesn't stop them" statement. The same thing holds true for the substitution I presented but, for some reason, you've never directed a statement like that to Whites when referring to AA. You've noted how AA doesn't compare to historical (and, perhaps, on-going) discrimination against "minorities" but you've never told Whites "I don't see the argument here (against AA)" under that "it doesn't stop..." logic.
That would be you proving my point. If AA doesn't stop Whites (or Asian Americans)? Where is the discrimination? Where is the substantive argument that Whites, e.g., are being disadvantaged... having opportunities "taken" away from them?
All the noted White preferences (i.e. the preferences Whites benefit from) paint a different picture. Whites virtually rack up in that department but want to complain about AA even in situations where lower scoring Whites get admitted ahead of a "better" qualified White student (Gratz)... even when (upper) class-based considerations factor in them (Hopwood) not getting admitted.
I guess it's easy to make Blacks (and that's who people mention most) the scapegoat. Always has been. But thanks for making my argument, Rodog.
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