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Slartibartfas · 11-17-2006, 05:03 PM

Fry, I am perhaps someone who could be labeled as atheist. Well, perhaps some kind of agnostic. I really don't care much how it is really called. The point is, I dont believe in a God. I don't believe in the christian concept of a soul (seperated from the body) and therefore I neither believe that there exists a life after death. No need to say that heaven and even the more hell are in my eyes nothing that factually exist.

Having that said, I pronounce that I "do not believe" and my rational thoughts also suggest very strongly that I should not believe in it, but there is no proof against God. And thats easy to explain why, because the whole concept is designed in a way that it can not be proved or disproved rationally.

My opinion and relation to religioun as the following. Everyone shall search enlightment the way he likes, as long as the let me search it without a god.

WRT the world is so complex argument. I dont see any improvement through the introduction of a god. Because if the world is too great and complicated to believe it has come into existance without a god, how could you believe that God did not need an even higher thing to come into existance. Or if you think that he is there for eternety, is believing in the world we have without a god, harder than believing that there exists something that did not need to be created as it was never not there.

You want to know my answer why the world can exist without a god, and we with it? Because if it would not work according to those wonderful complex rules it does, we could not ask us this question at all. We simply would not exist. And therefore there might even exist endless universes nearly all completely fucked up with hardly any order, perhaps not even parallely but after each other, it does not matter. We can not know it but the probability that out of a nearly eternal number of trials one functions as perfectly as our does in order that life could come into existence, is next to "1", ie nearly obligatory. So the answer in my eyes is simple, our universe looks like it does, because we exist there, because we can exist there.

11-17-2006, 05:03 PM	#23 (permalink)
Slartibartfas Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vedunia Posts: 4,950 Country: Country:	Fry, I am perhaps someone who could be labeled as atheist. Well, perhaps some kind of agnostic. I really don't care much how it is really called. The point is, I dont believe in a God. I don't believe in the christian concept of a soul (seperated from the body) and therefore I neither believe that there exists a life after death. No need to say that heaven and even the more hell are in my eyes nothing that factually exist. Having that said, I pronounce that I "do not believe" and my rational thoughts also suggest very strongly that I should not believe in it, but there is no proof against God. And thats easy to explain why, because the whole concept is designed in a way that it can not be proved or disproved rationally. My opinion and relation to religioun as the following. Everyone shall search enlightment the way he likes, as long as the let me search it without a god. WRT the world is so complex argument. I dont see any improvement through the introduction of a god. Because if the world is too great and complicated to believe it has come into existance without a god, how could you believe that God did not need an even higher thing to come into existance. Or if you think that he is there for eternety, is believing in the world we have without a god, harder than believing that there exists something that did not need to be created as it was never not there. You want to know my answer why the world can exist without a god, and we with it? Because if it would not work according to those wonderful complex rules it does, we could not ask us this question at all. We simply would not exist. And therefore there might even exist endless universes nearly all completely fucked up with hardly any order, perhaps not even parallely but after each other, it does not matter. We can not know it but the probability that out of a nearly eternal number of trials one functions as perfectly as our does in order that life could come into existence, is next to "1", ie nearly obligatory. So the answer in my eyes is simple, our universe looks like it does, because we exist there, because we can exist there.