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Old 04-01-2007, 06:28 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Nobody, unless those semantics are used to generate propaganda!
I can easily say the same thing regarding Holocaust denier style Serbian arguments.

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1. ALL news reports. Not a SINGLE UN, EU, OSCE not even CIA report exists about the ethnic cleansing up until the 28th of march which is after the bombing has started. I repeat, the war went on for 3 years and not a SINGLE official report of any ethnic cleansing.
Not a single report? Obviously, you have not taken the time to actually go through the UN documents to verify your claims.



Federal Republic of Yugoslavia -- Kosovo (S/PRST/1999/2 of 19 January 1999)
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STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL
19 January 1999

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"The Security Council strongly condemns the massacre of Kosovo Albanians in the village of Racak in Southern Kosovo
, Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, on 15 January 1999, as reported by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo Verification Mission (KVM). It notes with deep concern that the report of the KVM states that the victims were civilians, including women and at least one child. The Council also takes note of the statement by the Head of the KVM that the responsibility for the massacre lay with Federal Republic of Yugoslavia security forces, and that uniformed members of both the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia armed forces and Serbian special police had been involved. The Council emphasizes the need for an urgent and full investigation of the facts and urgently calls upon the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia to work with the International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia and KVM to ensure that those responsible are brought to justice.

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"The Security Council condemns the shooting of personnel of the KVM on 15 January 1999 and all actions endangering KVM and international personnel. It reaffirms its full commitment to the safety and security of the KVM personnel. It reiterates its demands that the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the Kosovo Albanians cooperate fully with the KVM.

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"The Security Council takes note with concern of the report of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees that five and a half thousand civilians fled the Racak area following the massacre, showing how rapidly a humanitarian crisis could again develop if steps are not taken by the parties to reduce tensions.
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I reimember in 1988 (I was 8 years old), we went to an excursion to see the old churches in Kosovo. On our way back we stopped because there was a dead cow on the road. The next moment you could see the entire Albanian village surrounding our bus (full of children) and accusing us that we hit and killed the cow so they wanted money. Eventually the teachers took every single cent that all of us had (teachers, kids, bus driver) and gave it to them so we could go (and yes, we gave them enough money to buy 10 cows). I also reimember that during that night and while all of that was happening all I could see were knives that each one of those people have and that they were constantly showing to our teachers.

a year earlier (1987) my uncle died in Macedonia in a car accident, and we were at the time in Montenegro (summer holidays) so the natural way to go to the hospital was trough Kosovo (as it is the closest) and I reimember that my parents went and because we had registration plates from Serbia, during those 150km of the road we were stoned twice, and our winscreen was broken.

Now imagine being a Serb and living among them.
That is a very significant perspective that you had, but I would have to ask if Serbia has done anything to make them that way. I guess you are Serbian then, right? Well Serbia committed atrocities in all the countries of the former Yugoslavia, not just Kosovo. I don't give Serbia much credibility in terms of not committing human rights violations.

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Who did they attack? They created Yugoslavia in 1918, they suffered genocide during WW2 in the hands of Croatians and Muslim. In 1990 those same Croatians and Muslims wanted to separate from Yugoslavia, Western world supported that (without supporitng the same right for Serbs to remain living in YU or to separate from Bosnia/Croatia), so I really don't know who was attacked?

All of those allegations were presented in Hague Tribunal (the monkey institution which always was against the serbs, but that's a different topic which I don't mind debating in). Anyway, that monkey, ad hock, institution which creates its own rules was unable to provide any conclusive proof about any crimes commited in Kosovo. So yes, if you have something send it to them, Karla Del Ponte will love it. Otherwise it all stays only based on allegations not on fact.
Oh, so you don't think the mass graves they found were real? I'll read up on the whole history it a bit more for this conversation.
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