@ Paratrooper,
Sorry for the late reply. Been busy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paratrooper
Ok few facts.
1. "Kosovar" term does not exist. People who live in Kosovo are either Albanian or Serbian. Term Kosovar was first used in 1999 for propaganda purposes. If the people of Kosovo were called Albanians perhaps someone would ask a question how come they want a part of Serbian land, and how come they came to live there? (Check any dictionary or encyclopedia prior to 1999 and you will NEVER find a term Kosovar)
|
Who cares about semantics?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paratrooper
2. The answer would be that in 1965 Serbs made over 65% of the Population of Kosovo and in 1999, serbs were down to about 30% (That well explains who was "ethnically cleansed").
|
Why did the Serbs leave? Also, no it does not explain "who was ethnically cleansed." Who was ethnically cleansed requires no explanation. The Serbs tried to ethnically clenased the Albanians, but they were thwarted by NATO. That's a fact, and going back in history does not change that fact.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paratrooper
3. Alltogether in Kosovo lived 1.4 million people, about 500 000 Serbs, and about 900 000 Albanians, so Serbs could not possibly "ethnically cleanse" 1million people. The only fact and figures that claim that kosovo had over 1.4mil people are those used in CNN/BBC reports, but no sound fact can be provided. (You are welcome to show me any census information about the number of people in Kosovo)
|
That's absurd. You only count the Serbs in Kosovo, what about the Serbs in Serbia?
They went all over Yugoslavia attacking all of the ethnicities in Yugoslavia, including the Kosovar Albanians.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paratrooper
4. All the "alledged" ethnic cleansing happend AFTER the Nato bombing, not before, and the number of people involved was much smaller. Also it is a question where they ethnically cleansed or were they just escaping fighting as any normal people wood. (by the way, you can google it or reffer back to archives, and you will not see ANY official reports nor footage of "ethnic cleansing" before the 24th of March)
|
Here's ethnic cleansing occurring before the 24th of March:
This Day in History 1999: NATO bombs Yugoslavia
Quote:
The militant Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) emerged in 1996 and began attacking Serbian police in Kosovo. With arms obtained in Albania, the KLA stepped up its attacks in 1997, prompting a major offensive by Serbian troops against the rebel-held Drenica region in February-March 1998. Dozens of civilians were killed, and enlistment in the KLA increased dramatically. In July, the KLA launched an offensive across Kosovo, seizing control of nearly half the province before being routed in a Serbian counteroffensive later that summer. The Serbian troops drove thousands of ethnic Albanians from their homes and were accused of massacring Kosovo civilians.
In October, NATO threatened Serbia with air strikes, and Milosevic agreed to allow the return of tens of thousands of refugees.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paratrooper
5. Serbia was bombed until it allowed NATO troops in, albanians were never kicked out in the first place (and those who did go out were allowed to return at any time).
|
This is in contradiction with the source above. I'll find another.
CNN - Clinton calls NATO strikes a 'moral imperative' - March 24, 1999
Quote:
|
More than 2,000 people have died in fighting that began last year when the government of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic began a crackdown on independence-minded ethnic Albanians. Hundreds of thousands of refugees have been left homeless.
|
CNN - More than 2,100 bodies exhumed from Kosovo graves - November 10, 1999
Quote:
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- War crimes investigators have exhumed the bodies of 2,108 ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, a fraction of the thousands estimated killed during a brutal crackdown on the province by Yugoslav and Serb security forces, a U.N. prosecutor said Wednesday.
Carla Del Ponte, the chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia, briefed the Security Council in New York with the tribunal's preliminary findings.
"This figure does not necessarily reflect the total number of actual victims, because we have discovered evidence of tampering with graves," Del Ponte said. "There were also a significant number of sites where the precise number of bodies cannot be counted. In these places steps were taken to hide the evidence. Many bodies have been burned."
NATO halted the 18-month crackdown -- which forced hundreds of thousands of Albanians to flee the province -- with a 78-day bombing campaign that ended with the beginning of the Serb troop withdrawal on June 10. NATO peacekeeping troops, with war crimes investigators alongside, entered Kosovo the following day.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Paratrooper
What you are saying is pure CNN propaganda, and none of that was ever proved. The attempt to prove it was during the Milosevic trial in Hague, but if you go trough the documents you will see how weak the argument is. IT is basically based only on "first hand" experiences of "protected witnesses" so no identity was know and nothing more than "personal oppinion" was presented.
|
You said I would not see any "official report" of ethnic cleansing. Well I just provided some news reports that show the ethnic cleansing.
So then you're saying that there were no thousands of refugees and there were no mass graves as the media has reported? Do you have any
reason or evidence to support your beliefs?