McLame’s Immigration Insanity

McLame and LIEberman were recently on a PR campaign together in NH and lying through their teeth on McLame's immigration record. At a recent town hall meeting, McLame speaks for a while uttering his gibberish about illegal immigration and the illegal's are god's children (he obviously believes that they are a special type of god’s children and deserve some kind of extra compassion), etc. LIEberman takes the mike and says..."To say John McCain ever supported amnesty for illegal immigrants is a lie..." This is extremely disturbing that both of these Senators would try to deceive and directly lie to people for the express purpose of garnering votes. You can view this for yourself in this video:


McLame is trying to run from his actions and record. He is intentionally distorting (I call it lying) the irrefutable fact that he was a supporter of amnesty by claiming he was never for amnesty. He was a main architect, contributor and proponent of the Comphrensive Immigration Reform bills (s. 1348 and s. 1639) of 2007 that were written in order to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. McLame was so deep into the content and language of these bills that they were often referred to as the Kennedy-McCain Immigration Reform bills.

McLame has consistently supported amnesty for illegal aliens since at least 2003 as reported by hotair.com from a Tuscon Citizen article…“McCain Pushes Amnesty, Guest-Worker Program,” reported the Tucson Citizen of May 29, 2003. The senator is quoted as saying: “Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens. That has to be a component of it.” The newspaper also quoted McCain as saying: “I think we can set up a program where amnesty is extended to a certain number of people who are eligible and at the same time make sure that we have some control over people who come in and out of this country.”
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: Liebs says McCain did not support amnesty for illegal aliens
Power Line: McCain Was For Amnesty Even When It Was Called Amnesty

During the ABC News presidential debate on January 5, 2008 McLame said: “Let me just say I've never supported amnesty. A few nights ago, Joe Lieberman and I had a town hall meeting together. It was a rather unusual event. The issue came up. Joe Lieberman said John McCain has never supported amnesty, and anybody says he does is a liar, he's lying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/us...kwWyQwnxeL9Sew

One day later at the Fox News presidential forum, McLame said, “I have never, ever supported amnesty, and never will”.

During the Fox News presidential debate on January 10, 2008 McLame said: “I know how to secure the borders. I come from a border state where our borders are broken. More people come across our border illegally every year than most any other state. And I will secure the borders first…The remaining 12 million…we must then, in my view, address it in as humane and compassionate way as possible. The three GIs who were missing last year in action, one of them was still missing in action, his wife was about to be deported from this country. I'm not going to deport the wife of a fighting serviceman who's missing in action. I'm going to handle it in a humane, compassionate fashion.”
EARTH to McMARS; if you know how to secure the borders, why is your home state’s border still unsecured (McLame has been in Congress for 26 years, the last 22 as a Senator), so much so that more illegals come across your border than anywhere else? What have you been waiting for? Amnesty (again)? Furthermore, what does a GI wife’s situation have to do with the 20 to 36 million illegal aliens here, many of which came across those borders you know how to secure but have done nothing to secure?
The State | 01/11/2008 | Transcript: Republican presidential debate

Lest we forget or if anyone is unsure as to what the definition of amnesty is, I will provide it below:

AMNESTY, in relation to immigration matters, is legislation to forgive the breaking of immigration laws and to make it possible for illegal aliens to live permanently in the United States. Amnesty represents a system of federal rewards and assistance for illegal aliens, and they entice an even greater number of foreign nationals to illegally enter a country.

AMNESTY:
1. A general pardon for offenses against a government
2. An act of forgiveness for past offenses, esp. to a class of persons as a whole
3. Forgetting or overlooking any past offense

Not only is McLame a supporter of amnesty, he is not fond of any fencing for immigration control or for security reasons. McLame said, “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”[Prisoner of Conscience - Vanity Fair, February 2007: John McCain: Prisoner of Conscience: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com

”We are not going to erect barriers and fences” (June 5, 2007 CNN Republican Presidential Candidates Debate: )

I suppose McLame has never heard of the 14-mile double-layer fence between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. Its benefits in stopping illegal entry into the U.S. were immediate and long lasting. According to a 2005 Congressional Research Service report illegal alien apprehensions along the fence region dropped from 202,000 in 1992 to 9,000 in 2004, a reduction greater than 95% ( Spending Bill 'Guts' Border Fence, Critics Say -- 12/19/2007 )

Particularly galling is that December’s omnibus spending bill did not include the appropriations for construction of the double layer 700-mile border fence, which was passed into law just a few months earlier. Additionally, the requirement of a double-layer fence mandated by the Secure Fence Act of 2006 was removed, so if funding is ever restored, a truly effective fence being constructed is unlikely.

I’m sure if McLame was somehow elected President; one of his first official acts would be to take down the fence surrounding the White House…right John?

What is it with border-state candidates?

Bush won't send them back.

McCain won't send em back.....

Does Mexico's Fox have that much power to make deals these guys can't refuse?

I'm a righty but these issues really bug me.

Mexico's Fox is no longer president and has little, if any, real influence in this country.

And, border-state candidates have been dealing with the issue of illegal immigration for a whole lot longer than candidates from other states, Connecticut, for example.

Also, keep in mind that the last time amnesty was allowed, it was Ronald Reagan who signed it into law.

Did the country collapse then? Of course not.

I don't support amnesty, but the bill in question, on the face of it anyway, was a better solution in the short and long term than anything that's been suggested by anyone else.

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Nothing personal, but I just get annoyed in general when people make "did the country collapse" or "did the sky fall" type comments. Few people are suggesting that such things would happen, but would the sky fall if we just shot 40,000 Jews a week? No, but that hardly justifies doing it.


I'm willing to think about border fences, there are obvious goods and bads. The good is that it helps, and a double fence will do alot, namely to help the border patrols to do their job. It's alot easier to get into the country when you have to walk across an open field and not get seen, but when you have to find your way over, under, or around two fences, it isn't quite as easy. The downside, of course, is that people still could get in, and that the fences would cost a heck of alot of money. However, it would cost us less than medicare does for one year, and it wouldn't be a recurring cost. We'd have to pay for maintenance, but in the long run this could save us money and be cost-effective.



To zeezil, I've got to say that I don't like you using the word McLame. If you have a problem with his views on issues than trash his views, not him. When you trash him you are pretty much trashing the politician who has given the most to America, America's greatest patriot that is serving in Congress. You don't see many military men in Congress anymore, men who have actually sacrificed - this is one of those men, and you've chosen to degrade his name rather than his stance.

An in-depth interview in June 2007 conducted with WBT radio Charlotte, NC illustrates McCain’s lack of knowledge of the details in his own Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. His arrogance and condescending attitude to those who disagreed with him on the amnesty issue can also be heard: The Jeff Katz Show | Sen. John McCain on Amesty for Illegals