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Old 01-13-2008, 03:49 PM
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Hillary Is A Pure Socialist Indeed!

Some may or may not have heard these yet but just so it stays fresh in people's mind, I have got a few videos of her and what she stands for:










If socialism is what people want, Hillary Clinton is the candidate to vote for.

What say you?
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:19 PM
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I'm not much of a fan of the Clintons either, but for the sake of clarity...

"The term socialism is used to refer to an economic system characterized by state ownership of the means of production and distribution."

Can you show me a case where she, or any other candidate has advocated state ownership?
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:22 PM
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I'm not much of a fan of the Clintons either, but for the sake of clarity...

"The term socialism is used to refer to an economic system characterized by state ownership of the means of production and distribution."

Can you show me a case where she, or any other candidate has advocated state ownership?
Well, the videos above say she, if she becomes President, which is a government position, is going to TAKE OIL PROFITS and distribute them elsewhere.

Unless theft has somehow become legal, I dont know how she takes them away from a private business.

Hillary Care or UHC is totally state and federal ownership.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:30 PM
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Unless theft has somehow become legal, I dont know how she takes them away from a private business.
It has, long ago. Taxation is what she'll use.
As far as I can tell, the only socialist policy she has is her healthcare idea, which seems to be supposed to be state-owned, but I haven't looked at it in detail.
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:56 PM
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I'm not much of a fan of the Clintons either, but for the sake of clarity...

"The term socialism is used to refer to an economic system characterized by state ownership of the means of production and distribution."

Can you show me a case where she, or any other candidate has advocated state ownership?
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
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Some may or may not have heard these yet but just so it stays fresh in people's mind, I have got a few videos of her and what she stands for:

If socialism is what people want, Hillary Clinton is the candidate to vote for.

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sounds like fascism to me
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:50 PM
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Perhaps it is more correct to say Hillary is Fascist = business is privately owned, but micro managed by the government. Adoph Hitler would have liked Hillary's health care plan. We can't really say Hillary has any other applicable experience other than Senator. If we have Hiilary as the Democratic candidate, her Senate voting record may be reveiled. Where are the details available and analyzed at present?
The bottom line is not much different for fascists or Socialists = business is operated incompetently, so prices are high, wages are low, competent inovators are punished, quality poor, shortages frequent, and freedoms are diluted, compared to typical free enterprise. The public school system is Socialist, The Department of Defence is Socialist. TVA = Tenesee Valley Authority is Socialist. State colleges are Socialist. NASA is Socialist. The highway system is Socialist. Neil

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Old 01-14-2008, 02:25 AM
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sounds like you just described our country today, under the bush administration.



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1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:03 AM
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sounds like you just described our country today, under the bush administration.
Well Bush certaintly isnt trying to go in the opposite direction to say the least...lol.

Neil, very well put my friend.

I thought the 3rd video of Hillary was probably the worst as far as long term goals go.
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:31 AM
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It has, long ago. Taxation is what she'll use.
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And the oil companies will make up for it by charging more for oil. A true polition would suggest lowering the taxes inposed on fuel.
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