Yep. The more taxes government puts on private sector businesses the more we will pay for it out in the market.

Sooner or later the left in this nation will have to come to the realization that in order for people to have jobs, and companies to say afloat that they must have "profits". The more profit, the better. Why do I say that? Well b/c the more profit companies have, the easier it will be for them all to navigate things like A) a recession B) drops in the market globally.

Everyone worries about their jobs during an economic downturn right? Well, wouldnt it be better for companies to have the liquid assets on hand to stay afloat during such a time? Any form of logical reasoning would say yes.

Hillary is a card carrying member of the DLC and a follower of the Mcauliffe brand of "centrist" politics. THis has been the hall mark of the the DLC from its inception. THe Clinton's support NAFTA and other "free trade" agreements and are hardly socialist.

That being said I think a little socialism is needed for a country to compete now days....lord knows the gvt's are not going to force the mega rich to pay for health insurance for their employees and the mega rich are more then happy to make them use medicare and caid rather then paying jack.


In the long run single payer healthcare and other essentials SHOULD be socialized if only to allow the common man something besides owing his soul to the company whore.

I'm willing to bet the employees of the "mega rich" have pretty damn good health insurance. If people are so against "mega rich" corperations, try working for someone poor. See what kind of pay and benifits you get then.

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What? The rich already pay for their employees insurance....lol. Why do you think companies like Ford are going belly up? Their insurance costs and retirement payouts are bankrupting them.

Why should your employer be responsible for your habits outside the workplace? If you bungyjump and break your neck and back outside of working hours, why is that your companies problem?

Guess who you don't give a damn about if you are making these statements, all small business owners and upper middle class and some middle class. Dont let Barack fool you small business owners do exist and they get majorly shafted.

interesting. the economist did a piece a few months ago entitled is america turning left they cautioned;

medicine, waterworks, anything that is a basic necessity to life should be socialized.
a corporations soul purpose is to increase its value in its own stock.
THATS IT!
if a corporation can dump 500 tons of pollutants in a river for free instead of paying say 25million to dump it in a land fill, but at the same time knowing they "could" be fined 24million for doing so, that is a smart corporate decision (for all you slow pokes out there thats 25 million dollars the corporation has made, 1 million if caught(a win win situation)). everything from sears to mcdonalds to GM have been sued for billions in environment and antitrust suets. it is dangerous and unnecessary for these corporate bodies to exist. anyone who will refute me better be stinking rich otherwise you are a cog in an insidious plan to help the rich ride on the backs of the poor. i blame the rich for this less because they have a reason (however wrong), they love mindless instant gratification and receive it constantly in this system.

" corporations soul purpose is to increase its value in its own stock"

yep, and the way that corporations involved in the medical field increase their "stock" is by providing better care than their competitors.

insurance companies make profit by having enough people paying for insurance to the point where they take in more money than they have to spend on customers.

win win situation.

its actually the opposite of what you said, but close! a medical corporation makes better margins on how many people they can refuse treatment. are you an american? do you have health insurance? i would caution you to read you contract very carefully. there are probably around 100 medical problems you could have, just starting with the letter A that you will not be covered for. your gambling my friend, and the house always wins. (i may have quoted deniro there in casino)

ive had MANY great insurance providers in my life. its nice to be able to walk into a doctors office whenever i feel sick, drop a $10-$20 co-pay, and get treatment right away. or hell, when my glasses break, i can head down to the nearest private business and pay a co-pay for a vision checkup and a pair of glasses that i think are stylish and comfortable on my face, not just functional.


and whether i have insurance or not, going to the doctor is OPTIONAL. like one time, about 10 years ago, i had pretty good coverage, i just didnt want to go to the dentist to deal with a wisdom tooth. so you know what i did? i drank till my teeth got numb (they were hurting non-stop) grabbed a pair of pliers, and yanked that bad-boy out. saved me, and my insurance provider, a bit of cash.