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If Obama wins the primary the Democatic party will lose votes in the south.
You mean they will lose white votes. That is certainly the case, but not nearly as many as you might think. I live in the south, and Obama is tearing it up around here. The only, and I mean ONLY political buzz is Obama. Even if they're saying they don't like him, they aren't really talking about anyone else.
Also realize that there is a very large segment of the African-American population in the south that has rarely if ever voted. They will this time around.
I think people look at Hillary, and they don't just see an abrasive, divisive person. They see in one glance everything that is wrong in American politics: the rabid partisanship, the influence of lobbyists and PACs, the continuance of the Bush/Clinton dynasty, the status quo. She can talk change all she wants, but has not done anything prior to walk that walk. Obama has. His legislation has by and large been reformist in nature; something sorely needed in DC. I think Hillary is going to get creamed in the south.
In the general, folks around here are flat out disgusted with the GOP. My state of Tennessee has had a very good two terms under a Democratic governor. Terms that have seen sound fiscal policies in combination with economic growth. Add to that that Tennessee has been able to actually improve their healthcare programs for the working poor under Democratic leadership, and you could easily see Tennessee in the blue category. Bear in mind that I am saying this from an east Tennessee perspective, the most solidly Republican section of the state. If the GOP loses east Tennessee (which I think is likely), that indicates to me that the general election will be a landslide win for the Dems.
And if the first reports of an enormous disparity in turnout between the Dems and the GOP holds, the GOP is hobbled out of the gate.
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it dosn't matter who obama gets for VP he dosn't have enough knowledge to hit the ground running...we need someone who can at least find the bathrooms...not just speak pretty words, we haven't got time for 'on the job training'
Hillary has been exposed to, health care....that was vetoed before it was read...Hillary has given her whole life to public service...she kept her family together when the whole country was trying to tear it apart...which only proves she's a peace maker, not a divider, we need the compassion of a women to bring this country back to the leader it has always been.
tell me which old person wants higher taxes. which old person wants more of their hard earned and retirement savings going back to the gov't. they have earned their money and should be rewarded.
nowhere are the democrats advocating for S.S. welfare like that of the Republicans.
I sort of agree that race may end up playing a factor in the general election.
But on the other hand, we're going to have to break through the color barrier at some point. Barack Obama seems like the perfect African American leader to do just that right now.
I don't think the Democratic party should be afraid to nominate a black man for president. I think it shows how far we've come in America that a black man and a woman are finally getting a fair shake.
And if Obama was to lose the general because of race, then maybe this country isn't worthy of a leader with such vision and hope for America.
I want the Dems to win the general as much as the next guy, but I'm not afraid to get behind an African-American as my candidate. At some point the racists need to shut up and just realize that we all were created equal.
Hell, in my opinion this race shit should have come off the table when civil rights was won and segregation was over with.
We should have broke the "color barrier" 30 yrs ago.
But unfornuatly that isn't the case bigotry,,raceism and ignorance are still around.
On one hand I'm for Obama if he doesn't make theprimary he'll make VP. I'm almost sure of that I jusat don't want to see another Republican in the White house we've been playing with the same cards too long it's time to change the deck.
You mean they will lose white votes. That is certainly the case, but not nearly as many as you might think. I live in the south, and Obama is tearing it up around here. The only, and I mean ONLY political buzz is Obama. Even if they're saying they don't like him, they aren't really talking about anyone else.
Also realize that there is a very large segment of the African-American population in the south that has rarely if ever voted. They will this time around.
I think people look at Hillary, and they don't just see an abrasive, divisive person. They see in one glance everything that is wrong in American politics: the rabid partisanship, the influence of lobbyists and PACs, the continuance of the Bush/Clinton dynasty, the status quo. She can talk change all she wants, but has not done anything prior to walk that walk. Obama has. His legislation has by and large been reformist in nature; something sorely needed in DC. I think Hillary is going to get creamed in the south.
In the general, folks around here are flat out disgusted with the GOP. My state of Tennessee has had a very good two terms under a Democratic governor. Terms that have seen sound fiscal policies in combination with economic growth. Add to that that Tennessee has been able to actually improve their healthcare programs for the working poor under Democratic leadership, and you could easily see Tennessee in the blue category. Bear in mind that I am saying this from an east Tennessee perspective, the most solidly Republican section of the state. If the GOP loses east Tennessee (which I think is likely), that indicates to me that the general election will be a landslide win for the Dems.
And if the first reports of an enormous disparity in turnout between the Dems and the GOP holds, the GOP is hobbled out of the gate.
Well if you're discribing the faults of Hillary\the iron maden your're preaching to the quior.
And though I have always supported Edwards I would be more than happy to support and encourage a vote for Obama.
The one thing a lot of people have against Edwards is he used to be a lawyer and he's rich.
The one thing I have against Oboma is everytime somebody ask him a question he makes a speech, if he becomes president he won't have that much time and trust me whoever is the next president there will be a lot of questions and the American people will not wait to long to see a change neither will they be merciful for any mistakes.
I bring your attention to one year of slow progress of the Democratic Congress to 6 yrs of shit before.
So far Obama had a big turn out of young voters. I suspect that pattern is going to hold.
To be truthful I hope so, but the fact remains there are three forunners in the Democratic race somebody needs to back off or the votes might be split if that happens Hilary would be very happy.
tell me which old person wants higher taxes. which old person wants more of their hard earned and retirement savings going back to the gov't. they have earned their money and should be rewarded.
nowhere are the democrats advocating for S.S. welfare like that of the Republicans.
Well,I'm over 50 and I know a lot of elderly people asking the same question,
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