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Old 12-26-2007, 10:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Iowa Republican Caucus

WEB, that poll wasn't a fluke. McCain is definitely in a strong third, and within striking distance of the lead.

Just amazing considering that he's not a big fan of ethanol.
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Iowa Republican Caucus

WEB, that poll wasn't a fluke. McCain is definitely in a strong third, and within striking distance of the lead.

Just amazing considering that he's not a big fan of ethanol.
If you consider being outnumbered by the leader by 3:1 as "within striking distance" well OK.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Not according to the last two polls. Where do you get 3:1? The average?
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Romney has mainly been endorsed by beltway politicians. Newspaper endorsements have a much bigger effect, and those have mostly gone to McCain, which I think is what is most responsible for his rise in the polls.
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Romney has mainly been endorsed by beltway politicians. Newspaper endorsements have a much bigger effect, and those have mostly gone to McCain, which I think is what is most responsible for his rise in the polls.
After the Republican primaries, the Democrats will stop voting for him, just like Paul and Huckabee. Giuliani, Romney and Thompson will get the real Republican votes. Although some might consider Giuliani a moderate, not many leftist Democrats trying to uneven the vote will vote for him. Therefore, those 3 rinos can step down now.
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Not according to the last two polls. Where do you get 3:1? The average?
Yes 3:1 in the average. The average consists of 6 polls. McCain is getting beat somewhere on the order of 2:1 to near 6:1 for 5 of the polls. Only in one poll is he within "striking distance" of 1st.
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Yes 3:1 in the average. The average consists of 6 polls. McCain is getting beat somewhere on the order of 2:1 to near 6:1 for 5 of the polls. Only in one poll is he within "striking distance" of 1st.
let's be honest...McCain stands no chance. He didn't win in 04, he won't win again.
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let's be honest...McCain stands no chance. He didn't win in 04, he won't win again.
Yes dude, let's be honest, let's try being honest in all things, including Rudy, the Democrats and politics in general.

In any case, McCain is badly damaged goods. I think he will not, but no one can say who will win the GOP nomination.
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Someone has to win it, and all are unelectable by the base in some form or another.

Which is why I think it has to keep coming back to McCain. He's the closest thing to a reliable conservative there is.
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Someone has to win it, and all are unelectable by the base in some form or another.

Which is why I think it has to keep coming back to McCain. He's the closest thing to a reliable conservative there is.
* He voted against several Bush tax cuts.

* Supported amnesty.

* Sponsored McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms (crippling religious organizations previously massive donations to campaigns)

* Called some major evangelical leader an idiot

* Stopped the Republicans from doing the "nuclear option" on a Democratic filabuster

* Called the Confederate flag a symbol of slavery and racism (which it is)


So all those things make him wildly unpopular among the conservative base. I don't think "reliable" is the first word conservatives think of when they think about McCain.
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