xjoe3x

I am not sure what you mean? Could you elaborate?

prrriiide

I will not vote for Hillary.

It's not because of her votes. It's not because of her philosophy. It's not because she's a woman. There is one reason and one reason only:

She is Bill Clinton's wife.

I don't care if she is the most qualified or even the most capable. If she is elected to two terms, that will mean that either a Bush or a Clinton was in the White House for 28 consecutive years.

28 consecutive years of polarized political bickering. 28 years of downward spiral of the tone and quality of political discourse. 28 years of constitutional tug-of-war. 28 years of anti-compromise in Washington D.C. 28 years of the American people getting shafted while the parties try to decide how best to show each other up. 28 years of the parties trying to do what is worst for the President and his (her) party, instead of trying to do what is best for America and her citizens.

I was never a huge fan of Reagan, but neither did I feel like he was doing harm to the country. The legendary working relationship he had with Tip O'Neill should serve as a model for our leaders today. They had heated political differences, but at the end of the day, you could usually find O'Neill having a beer with The Gipper. It wasn't personal.

The animus aimed at the Clintons by the Republicans and at the Bush's from the Democrats is personal. And when it gets personal, America loses.

There is no chance that the Republicans and neo-cons will play ball if she gets elected. As hard as they tried to get Bill, it will look like child's play compared to how they will come after her, stall her platform, and basically dog her every move, her every statement, her every breath. And if being the most polarizing figure in American politics of this era weren't enough, she would be more ascending a throne than being elected.

28 years. Consider:

There will be doctors completing their residency programs that have not seen a President without the name Bush or Clinton.

There will be retired professional athletes that have known only those two names in the White House.

There will be people serving in the U.S. House of Representatives that were born during the first Bush administration.

That is a dynasty, albeit a split one. That is about as far from the intent of the framers of the Constitution as you can get.

I will not throw my vote away in continuance of this nonsense. I don't think it's any surprise that the chances of me voting for a Republican in this election are about the same as me receiving a direct hit from a comet. My chances of voting for Hillary Clinton in the primary are only slightly better.

It is time for a change. It is time to elect someone that will not draw the constant machine-gun fire of the oposition in both parties. It is time to take our country back and demand that her leaders pay more attention than lip-service to the people that put them in office.

I don't know which Democratic candidate that is for me yet, but I do know which one it is not.

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Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I've been through the drama of the 2004 election on an internet forum. I've seen people tear into someone for coming down on Kerry's side. I've also been "Rob" encouraging people to vote for Gore because of how they would be allowing Bush to win. I'm well familiar with it all, and it's all totally unnecessary. If every active poster on this forum voted for one candidate or another wherever they lived it would have 0 impact on the election. Not worth the drama.


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Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

OK, let's pretend we are stockbrokers or perhaps horse-watchers at the OTB. We can see Hillary is the clear favorite here. So who will you vote for if and when she gets the nomination?

I was looking at some 3rd party candidates yesterday and I didn't see anything that really interested me. I would never vote for Ron Paul and I won't vote Republican in this election either (regardless of who they run). I would sooner vote for Pol Pot than Ron Paul.

So anyway, who are you looking at?

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prrriiide

See, that's the problem. I will not vote for her in the primary. If she wins the nomination, I will feel compelled to vote for her simply because I have examined all of the Republican candidates and found them lacking in ways that don't even begin to counter-balance the Clinton/Bush dynasty effect.

I think we are both ordering off of the same menu. Will you please pass the salt for this shit sandwich?

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Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I see what you mean. You are in a tougher spot since you are in a red state and you will feel compelled to fight for the Dems. I am in a solid blue state, so I can do whatever I want and it doesn't matter. I think I understand you well enough and it may be in your interests to vote for Hillary in the generals, given your position.

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micfranklin

She is the only candidate running who has an issue with video games. I'm a diehard video game player, there are far more important things to worry about than GTA: San Andreas, and because of that and a variety of other reasons she will not have my vote.

Ever.

prrriiide

I think it might surprise you how blue Tennessee is becoming...

The number of people I associate with that have openly talked about switching to either independent or going whole hog and switching to the Dems is nothing short of remarkable. The only thing dying faster than the GOP around here is the possums on the highway.

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Rob

That sir is a personal attack.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary

I suggest you read the forum rules. A poster may call your comments dishonest, but not call you dishonest. It's very clearly laid out in the forum rules.

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