OK, I read the thread. I see that who supports Ron Paul is a controversy here. In my opinion, I think some of what Albinonewt says is true, in that you have a lot of "campus crazies" (sorry guys ) supporting Paul. Then he's probably gotten the Libertarian crowd, and some conservatives who have broken off from the GOP. I think there could be some liberals in there, but not many, as liberals believe in socialism and civil rights and women's rights from the federal government, and Paul is against that.

In either case, Paul will lose. One only wonders what he will do with the money. I will make my prediction that he runs as an Independent in the general.

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He has been offered the LP slot....to a degree.....see

Official Website of the Libertarian National Committee

However, he has a congressional race to contend with as well. He has stated that he has no intention.......I don't believe he will run as an independent. He would have to change party affiliation for his congressional seat as well and that time comes to a close (as an option ) on Jan 2.

Think he has a chance to be president, as a pub or a libertarian?

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The primary is the best chance. I have been told on a number of occasions that you never run a race that you can not realistically win (his words not mine).

The LP is currently on 26 ballots and will be on 49 before it is all over (OK will not even allow you to write in a name and their ballot requirements are too high for any "third" party to ever be a consideration).

Personally I would like to see him flip and run under the LP banner after the tax subsidized parties manipulate the system for their "preferred" globalist, anti-sovereignty candidates. I would also like to see Andrew P Napolitano as his running mate.

In many races in TX, we get in the mid 30% range. It could bring in a whole new dynamic to politics. The "two party system" has failed us miserably.

He was asked that question on all three television shows this morning. By the time the third show came around his response got a little fiery. He said that he's not entirely sure of the legality of a candidate running as a Republican to switch parties after the primaries.

This was directly after one of the news stations covered a story about how 2007 is going to be the first year in United States history that cell phone bills exceed land line bills along with the number of people using those. As Ron Paul and people on this forum have continually stated, those in the Republican party are only polled in most of these states when in states like New Hampshire 44% of registered voters are Independents. And as has been said, many of Ron Paul's supporters are in the age range where they would have never voted before, or possibly never liked any of the candidates in past elections.

It's obvious that Ron Paul doesn't fall in line with the rest of the GOP, but the idea that he's already lost is asinine. He has as good a chance as anyone else right now, IMO.

I think he'll have a lot better chance if the other candidates report their 4th quarter fundraising before the NH primaries. It's possible he will out raise all of them this quarter and that will go a long way toward disspelling the "he doesn't have a shot so I'm not voting for him crowd". That's the only thing that's holding him back. If he were treated like a top-tier candidate, he would be and a very formidable one.

If he doesn't do very well in Iowa and win NH then I don't think he'll make it. But I'll wait til after NH to say it's over.

He is right.

I was watching a television program the other night about the one day record for fundraising and the guy who started the website and the one day fundraising idea didn't even work for ron paul. they also said that 90% of the donations were $100 or less. This guy that started it just heard paul's message and wanted to help. the paul campaign had nothing to do with it the first time around.

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I don't suppose they mentioned that the same guy quit his job as a software engineer for Google to campaign for Paul full time. for free

I want a link to that.

Anyway, $100 or less by $6.5 million....you do the math.

The man behind Paul's fundraising curtain - Los Angeles Times
OK so I was a bit confused.. Lyman get's credit for the Blimp and Money Bombs and Vijay gets credit for Operation Live Free or Die but their names occur in the same article for a good reason. I've seen their names together a lot. I was previously under the impression that Vijay was Lyman's right hand man and that Lyman was the google guy. In looking for a link It seems like they are more like independent operators that do a lot of cooperating.

There are lot's of "on the scene" Operation Live Free or Die videos at YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.