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Old 12-18-2007, 10:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Some thoughts on Ron Paul.

First, he is a fund raising machine. His grassroots support is really something to behold. His campaign is starting to even attract handfuls of respectable conservative bloggers and opinion columnists (John Derbyshire to name one off the top of my head). I am amazed at Ron Paul’s campaign this year.

Second, there is a good theory out there, and I believe it (although I can’t prove it) that Ron Paul has basically taken away a large chunk of the left’s usual “campus crazies” support. Ron Paul is huge with college groups and the theory goes that the reason is he’s more revolutionary and anti-establishment then anyone on the left and his rhetoric doesn’t come off as anti-American. I think that’s probably true.

Third, I don’t think Ron Paul’s support will flow over to libertarianism at large, and that’s too bad. We need more small government proponents running for every office in the land, and I don’t think Ron Paul’s coat tails are going to help that goal at all.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I think his campaign could very well set up the Republican party for a realignment. When Ron Paul gets a strong showing in the primaries, he will be noticed, and the party will realize there is a strong base of small government Republicans, and potential support. Then, when whatever Neo-Con is sent to the general election gets slaughtered, the Republicans will be forced to change their tune.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:08 AM   #23 (permalink)
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What does it matter about Roe V. Wade? He's for leaving it up to the states not for making it illegal. He knows if there's no legal way people will have back alley abortions and it'll do more harm than good. His way will allow legal abortions.

Why does it matter about evolution? He wants to get rid of the Department of Education. He wouldn't dream of controlling how you educate your kids.

That's the nice thing about Ron Paul, no one believes exactly the same things you do, the difference is he doesn't want to force his beliefs on you in instances where you disagree.
My stance on abortion is shifty anyway so I don't know if that's good or not but bad for all those pro-choice people. Evolution is completely irrelevant here also.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:16 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I have been a Ron Paul supporter from the beginning but this morning I saw his latest video where he ranted about getting rid of Roe v Wade and that he did not believe in evolution. I'm out! I will not vote! There is no one who will stand by our individual freedoms and I've been told "nobody wants freedom at this time." I was also called "an ignorant slut" by a Christian which is typical of the attitude of these ugly people. America's glory days are over!
Roe vs. Wade is an example of judicial activism, resulting in unconstitutional judicial legislating. The constitution is completely silent on the issue of abortion, it is neither for or against it. Thus under the 10th amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

All of his pro-life measures and stances, do not lead to the federal government controlling the abortion issue, but rather the power returning to where it rightfully should be; the States. Abortion is not a constitutionally protected civil liberty, its lawfulness rightfully belongs to the states. The Supreme Court has unlawfully made it one, violating the 10th amendment. If the people want it to be one, passing a constitutional amendment should be necessary.

Ron Paul's stance on abortion policy is very consistent with his pro-constitution message.

I have never seen him bash on evolution. Please provide a link for analysis.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:51 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I saw some of the Fox and Friends spot this morning. The host asked Paul to give a one word response to words like illegal immigration, the war on terror, and a few others. He kind of rolled his eyes and gave his responses in sentences.
Yeah, that one was awful. They treated him like he was insane/a child rather than a doctor/congressman....I would expect no less from Fox News. The CNN one was a little bit better, but the MSNBC one was the best. Joe Scarborough said that his son was a Ron Paul supporter - he seemed to be supportive of the message as well.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:02 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Good for Mr. Paul and the wannabe parties out there....I still will not vote for Mr. Paul but I give credit where it is due and Paul deserves credit for being one of the few credible canddidates fielded by the right this season. The rest of the field is full of coawrds, cheats and liars and in the case of some theocrats....none of them stand a snowballs chance in hell. Sorry GOPers but Paul is really all you got....embrance him and hope for the best or you will be sure to give the dems the mandate they want to change the way things are done.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:03 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah, that one was awful. They treated him like he was insane/a child rather than a doctor/congressman....I would expect no less from Fox News. The CNN one was a little bit better, but the MSNBC one was the best. Joe Scarborough said that his son was a Ron Paul supporter - he seemed to be supportive of the message as well.
What kills me about their reluctance to take him seriously, especially the Fox and Friends bunch, is that they are some of the most insipid personalities I've seen on TV. Gretchen Carlson speaking down to someone like that is like watching Britney Spears trying to condescend to someone of value.

Gretchen: OK Mr. Paul, what ever you say.

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Old 12-18-2007, 12:05 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think his campaign could very well set up the Republican party for a realignment. When Ron Paul gets a strong showing in the primaries, he will be noticed, and the party will realize there is a strong base of small government Republicans, and potential support. Then, when whatever Neo-Con is sent to the general election gets slaughtered, the Republicans will be forced to change their tune.
One thing that I appreciate is that he is not afraid to address the issues. There hasn't been a politician like him that I can remember in that respect. When I was choosing a candidate in the '04 primaries the goal was to try and choose the Democrat who sounded like he was the most genuine/least full of shit. Then when these guys reach the White House we wonder why they lie their way into wars and such. That's how they got the job! I watch the GOP primaries and it seems like a lying contest now. Who can weave the greatest web of lies to support their own weight in bullshit and hope it holds until the primaries are over? It gets old really fast. I don't know how people don't see right through this stuff.
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Old 12-18-2007, 12:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah, that one was awful. They treated him like he was insane/a child rather than a doctor/congressman....I would expect no less from Fox News. The CNN one was a little bit better, but the MSNBC one was the best. Joe Scarborough said that his son was a Ron Paul supporter - he seemed to be supportive of the message as well.
Ron Paul + FOX news = grade A partisanism
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Old 12-18-2007, 01:57 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that you get the idea. If Ron Paul has tons of money and runs as a third party candidate he will steal many votes from the Republicans, basically guaranteeing a Democrat victory.
That is the most asinine comment I have ever read. Since when do Republicans "own" votes? Who gave them this ownership? Why are the Republicans entitled to claim said ownership?

Your statement is a perfect example of what is wholly wrong with American politics. It is the entitlement mentality.

No one owns MY vote except for me. I refuse to vote as if this were a horse race and refuse to vote for the "lesser" of two evils. I vote my conscious and for who is the best person for the job....regardless of party. Your statement is insulting at best, simply ignorant as an alternative.
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