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Originally Posted by liberalman
Lincoln was NOT at all like the current crop of GOPer's...given he rise of the Dixie-pubs Lincoln would not support the Republican party post civil rights movement either.
Roosevelt fought in the Spanish American war but was not president then....in fact, when he ran the 2nd time it was as a progressive an ideology he followed while president as well.
Bush Sr. did not win a war but rather a police action....and left the job unfinished along with deserting those we asked to rise up.
the fact is that the most successful of our presidents in war time have been democrats. FDR, Truman, etc
Repubs talk alot about war but in the modern age they are HUGE failures at securing the peace. Not to say that Dems have not made mistakes as well but looking at the numbers the dge has to go to them on issues of being effective commander in cheifs.
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Lincoln wasn't for equal civil rights, he wanted to ship all the slaves to Liberia. Lincoln also abolished habeus corpus while President.
Anyways to the topic at hand. The Democrats are not any better with security. We'll only focus on the semi-modern parties, 1914 onward. Before then, they are only the same party in name.
Democratic Presidents since 1914: Failures in command
Woodrow Wilson: Signed the Federal reserve Act, WWI manipulation to get us involved
Franklin D. Roosevelt: too dictatorial
Harry S. Truman: Korean War failures
John F. Kennedy: Bay of Pigs disaster
Lyndon B. Johnson: Got us into Vietnam, lied to do it with the Tonkin Gulf incident
Jimmy Carter: Iran embassy issue, walked all over
Bill Clinton: Downsized military far too much
Republican Presidents since 1914: Failures in command
Warren G. Harding: see Hoover
Calvin Coolidge: see Hoover
Herbert Hoover: Allowed FED to crash the markets
Dwight D. Eisenhower:
Richard Nixon: too secretive
Gerald Ford:
Ronald Reagan: Iran-Contra
George H. W. Bush: Broke no tax campaign pledge
George W. Bush: Iraq War
Obviously, the major failures fall with these men: Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George W. Bush. The other failures are minuscule compared to those of these men.
The Federal Reserve Act, the Lucitania being sunk, was a direct result of sending it deliberately into hostile waters.
The FED's currency regulation directly led to the crash of 1929. Hoover had the power to remove the FED. Note: mostly Coolidge, Hardings failures, but we're just going to blame Hoover as the representative.
The Vietnam war need not be fought, especially under false pretenses
Iran hostage crises could have been handled much better
The Iraq War should have never been started.
I count 3 Democrat mega-failures, and 2 Republicans. Further Johnson, Wilson, and Bush have blood on their hands.