Huckabee -- The Ultimate Liberal Plant - Page 2 - Political Forum

francois60 · 12-11-2007, 11:29 AM

While the article is stupid, Huckabee would be a disaster for Republicans and the conservative movement in general. Even if he won, he'd be liberal on all of the issues Presidents actually have influence on. THe only issues on which he's a conservative are abortion and gay marriage, things he can't do squat about.

SamInTheSouth · 12-11-2007, 02:37 PM

Wow, Superdude has risen from the dead.

Huckabee would indeed be a GOP disaster. He would be painted as a religious kook the way Bush has and the Dems would basically label him as George W Bush the Sequel, and they wouldn't be too far off on that analysis.

J.Locke777 · 12-11-2007, 03:02 PM

Just to clear some stuff up, here is a link showing different arguements against macroevolution made by many different scientists, a few of them being nobel-prize winners. http://www.creationevidence.org/scie...rob_macro.html

Anyway, I am not the debate, Huckabee is, thus, there will be no further talk about me.

Discuss the issue, not the poster.

francois60 · 12-11-2007, 03:06 PM

Well, he's not GWB either. GWB is a petty, childish man who discovered God late in life but didn't use his beliefs to do much more than quit drinking.

Mike Huckabee is a true Christian, a nice guy, and a man who is very serious about public policy.

What I question is his judgement. His political actions have been mainly informed by his religious beliefs. I have no objection to religious people being Presidents, even former ministers, but I need to see some evidence of reason and logic in his execution of the public business.

Instead, we get Christianity, in both it's liberal and conservative aspects. Soft on crime, big spending, against personal reproductive choice, not so big on privacy issues in general.

As far as foreign policy goes, he makes Jimmy Carter look like a tough guy.

J.Locke777 · 12-11-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by oldscutlas

Well in that case you need to delete the post I quoted as it is off topic as well. If you can't deal with someone arguing against you and feel the need to delete their posts you should look at what you posted first. I was simply arguing against what you already posted.

I've edited my post since I've found that some posters are too easily distracted from the issue presented in SD's origional post. I have also, added a link, JUST FOR YOU to help clairify my arguement. it's on this page 2.

J.Locke777 · 12-11-2007, 03:10 PM

SD, as far as post #11 is concerned, do you have any sources? Or is this just your personal feelings. If so, you either need to cite where you recieved this info, or make it more apparant you are interjecting your own personal opinion.

SamInTheSouth · 12-11-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by francois60

Well, he's not GWB either. GWB is a petty, childish man who discovered God late in life but didn't use his beliefs to do much more than quit drinking.

Mike Huckabee is a true Christian, a nice guy, and a man who is very serious about public policy.

What I question is his judgement. His political actions have been mainly informed by his religious beliefs. I have no objection to religious people being Presidents, even former ministers, but I need to see some evidence of reason and logic in his execution of the public business.

Instead, we get Christianity, in both it's liberal and conservative aspects. Soft on crime, big spending, against personal reproductive choice, not so big on privacy issues in general.

As far as foreign policy goes, he makes Jimmy Carter look like a tough guy.

I don't care about Huckabee being religious either. I am a Catholic and I go to about every other week. I am just saying that the Democrats on the far left will portray him as a overly fundamental nut job.

As far as Huckabee and Bush, their positions are remarkably similar be it on immigration, on spending, on growing the government, etc. Huckabee is four more years of the current administration and eight years of Bush will have done more than enough damage.

Sebelius for VP, not Hillary · 12-11-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SamInTheBurgh

I don't care about Huckabee being religious either. I am a Catholic and I go to about every other week. I am just saying that the Democrats on the far left will portray him as a overly fundamental nut job.

As far as Huckabee and Bush, their positions are remarkably similar be it on immigration, on spending, on growing the government, etc. Huckabee is four more years of the current administration and eight years of Bush will have done more than enough damage.

I don't think so. I think Huck is neither aggressive in foreign policy, nor a fiscal conservative. He says he's in favor of the Fair Tax, but that's just something he says because he knows that there's no way in hell you can repeal the 16th amendment. I think he's a populist. Socially conservative, economically moderate.

francois60 · 12-11-2007, 08:20 PM

You can get rid of the income tax, but it will take a good spokesman who is serious about it. Huckabee is serious about returning God to government. The Fairtax is a minor plank in his platform, a ploy to win economic conservative votes. It almost fooled me.

TokenLiberal · 12-11-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by francois60

You can get rid of the income tax, but it will take a good spokesman who is serious about it. Huckabee is serious about returning God to government. The Fairtax is a minor plank in his platform, a ploy to win economic conservative votes. It almost fooled me.

What do you mean by "returning God to government", pray tell?