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Old 11-30-2007, 09:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Plant Questions at the Debate

So, by now we all know that of the 30 or so questions asked during the U-Tube Debates a number of them were from, shall we say, non-Republican sources. Some of the questioners were members of Democratic campaigns, some were supporters of Democratic candidates, and others had ties to either unions or in one case worked in a Democratic office.

CNN is being accused of all kinds of different things. Dick Morris accused CNN of coordinating with the Clinton Camp to get her guy on the program.

Personally, I think CNN chose gotcha’ questions because they wanted to stick it to the candidates and it turned out that a lot of those questions weren’t being asked by Democrats. It’s easy to contrast this with the questions that were asked of the Democrats in their CNN?Utube debate and see a difference.

Personally, it doesn’t annoy me so much that the questioners were associated with Rival campaigns, I guess that sort of thing can happen. What annoys me is that CNN deliberately chose questions that they, left leaning journalists, wanted to ask and not questions that the right of center Republican voters would necessarily care about. Are there significant blocks of Republican primary voters that are voting based on a candidate’s views on gays in the military? Are there huge numbers of us who are most concerned with which Republican candidate is most likely to have another Dick Cheney as his VP? Those are concerns of left of center voters, and those voters aren’t likely to be represented a whole lot in the primary, as primaries are mostly about the base. Those questions may have been more appropriate for a general election debate but were a disservice to the audience of this debate.

CNN probably should have gone more out of their way to get people that were like minded to the primary voters to pick the questions, so that their viewers would have been better served. I think this is a case the journalists having a much different perspective then their audience and that causing the quality and nature of the debate to suffer.

Charles Krauthammer made the point that he thinks Republicans should answer a bunch of left of center questions and Democrats should answer a bunch of right of center questions. I think for general elections he’s right, but for the primaries I don’t know if I agree with that. I want to hear questions asked from a perspective more similar to my own then dissimilar to it because this is a primary and the primary (the base) voters by and large share my perspective.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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While I do not really like the underhandedness of taking questions directly from democrat campaigns (if that is true), I disagree with you about having questions that are like-minded to the primary voters. I think it is an important aspect of the debate to have people questioned in a way that is adverse to their views, to see how they handle it. Also, not that I look at "electability", but many do, and these questions will be tossed around in the general election.

Further, gays in the military and the power of dick cheney are issues that are in fact very important to republican voters. I am a republican who is financially conservative but somewhat liberal on social views, but a republican none the less. I think it is a shame that we have to have a don't ask don't tell policy. Also, as a true republican and supporter of state rights, I would little involvement by federal government, so the less we see Cheney involved, then potentially the less the federal government is involved. Tough questions that are not a part of your everyday republican rhetoric are good for all involved in the political process, which is why I thought the debate was one of the better ones... except for candidate answers of course, they always suck.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There aren't that many questions in the debate. Do we really need to ask if Jesus was for the electric chair?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, all the other debates have covered the main issues. It is the same thing over and over. So questions like this appeal to the moderate republicans like myself, who want to know the method of thinking of a man who claims to be a devout Christian, with high moral standards, yet still advocates the government murdering someone because they murdered someone first. Sure, the question was asked in a goofy manner, but it was a good question none the less. I particularly like the question about following the bible word for word, because that is something I find indicative of a persons ability to engage in logical thinking.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, I'm glad that CNN tailored the debate to your liking.

However, for the base of the party the debate didn't tell us much.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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This Is CNN

By The Editors
Shortly before Wednesday night’s CNN/YouTube Republican debate, host Anderson Cooper defended the innovative format in which “ordinary citizens” were invited to submit their own questions by uploading videos to the Internet.

“Obviously people are cautious about any type of new technology,” Cooper told The Politico. “But this is not that new. This whole Internet thing has been around for a while, if I understand. I think the candidate that rejects it looks out of touch and foolish.”

The day after the debate, it was revealed that at least six of the questioners were Democratic activists rather than typical voters, whose opinions and concerns were supposed to be represented. The question for CNN — which was solely responsible for selecting the questions — is: Who looks foolish now?

In the most telling incident, openly gay retired brigadier general Keith Kerr, who is part of Hillary Clinton’s “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgendered for Hillary Steering Committee,” was allowed to ask whether the candidates supported the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy. After several of the candidates said that they respected Kerr’s service but didn’t believe the military needed to change its policy, CNN host Cooper asked Kerr — who was present in the live audience — whether he’d gotten an answer. He thought he hadn’t. All in all, the episode took nearly five minutes.

Kerr told CNN he had not done work for the Clinton campaign, but he was listed on Clinton’s website as part of the LGBT steering committee. On the website of Campaigns and Elections magazine, he is listed as one of almost 50 co-chairmen of a group called “Veterans and Military Retirees for Hillary.” He was also on the steering committee of “Veterans for Kerry.”

CNN later issued an apology. “We regret this incident. CNN would not have used the general’s question had we known that he was connected to any presidential candidate,” said David Bohrman, a CNN executive and the producer of the debate. But it wouldn’t have been hard to find out. Has CNN ever heard of Google? (Hint: it’s an Internet search-engine. Another hint: It owns YouTube.) Within minutes of Kerr’s question, a reader e-mailed National Review Online to inform us of his affiliation. It was the subsequent NRO “Corner” post that brought the connection to CNN’s attention.

Other questions came from declared supporters of John Edwards, Barack Obama, Bill Richardson, someone working on legislation with a Democratic senator, and a prominent union activist also supporting the Edwards campaign. The conceit of the YouTube debate was that it empowered ordinary citizens, but CNN managed to empower Democratic activists instead — and at a Republican debate!

Overall, even the questions not asked by Democratic activists were embarrassing — vapid, stupid, irrelevant, or all three. The conservative questioners were straight out of liberal caricature. One man who asked about Second Amendment rights ended his video by having someone off camera toss him a (presumably) loaded shotgun; he then pumped it and chambered a round to drive his point home. Another questioner asked whether the candidates believed “every word of this book” — while waving a Bible at the camera. Obviously, this is what CNN thinks conservatives are.

Also worth noting is what questions CNN didn’t ask. There was not a single question about education or health care, for example. But CNN did make sure viewers heard about the Trilateral Commission and a mission to Mars. This passes for editorial judgment?

Republicans were reluctant to participate in last night’s debate, and CNN proved them right. Both they and the viewers had to endure two hours of inanity and stilted questioning. We learned a little something about the candidates in the exchanges Wednesday night, but we learned much more about CNN.
I think the NRO editors are spot on when it comes to the CNN debate. It really was just an embarrasment.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Have you been watching all of the other debates? Every question has been asked and answers have been given. Debates are useless if it is the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. If that is how you want it, then lets just have one debate and that be the end of it. You are not the only member of the republican party, you had debates that answered all of your questions. Now I had a debate that answered some of mine. Seems like a success to me.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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One month before the primary season the inane debate that this was was inappropriate. A number of opinion writers (Jim Gerehaty among them) long argued that this type of silly debate belonged in the summer, when it mattered less. But now, when voting is just a few weeks off, the questions ran between condescending to outright moronic.

With the elections fast approaching now is not the time to do the fluff debates. Much to their credit the Democrats got this nonsense out of the way early. The Republicans didn't, which was their own fault. But of the thousands of questions asked CNN didn't have to pick the gun toting maniac, the Bible Thumping Whacko, and the Hillary supporter.

But they did. And the debate was all the worse for it.
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After the other night, I may stop watching the You-Tube debates.

We begin the debate with a proclamation about "We're not gonna invite Santa, so-and-so irrelevancy, etc." That appears to have been a complete slap in the face to the viewer after I saw the several bizarre characters and questions that followed.

Why the hell would I watch it to hear what they feel about The Bible? I don't care whether they believe in it or not, and it is not a central issue to the country in any respect. Whether the majority in the country believes it or not, we are not a theocracy, and thus the candidates feelings on that book are irrelevant in the end. Their feelings on the Koran are irrelevant, just as their feelings on the Talmud and Tao Te Ching the same.

I also don't care how many guns they own. What does it matter? As long as they support the right to own them, whether they own one or not is irrelevant. These types of things make me feel like I'm getting dumber as a political viewer.
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