Clinton Gets Snippy With Iowan Over Iran - Political Forum

superdude17* · #1 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 11:50 AM

Source: Clinton gets snippy with Iowan over Iran - First Read - msnbc.com

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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
NEW HAMPTON, Iowa -- At a campaign stop here, Hillary Clinton sparred verbally for several minutes with a man who pressed her on her recent vote to call Iran's army a terrorist organization.

Randall Rolph, from nearby Nashua, asked why he should support Clinton's candidacy when she did not appear to have learned any lessons from having voted to authorize force in Iraq.

Clinton thanked him for the question and explained her Iran vote would lay the groundwork for using diplomacy and sanctions to pressure that government.

Clinton accused the man of being a plant who had been sent to ask the question, to which he took exception, saying the question was a result of his own research.

"I apologize," Clinton said, explaining that she had been asked the very same question in three other places.

The crowd applauded when the senator ended the back and forth by saying the two had a disagreement and offering to put Rolph in touch with her staff, who could provide him with the text of the legislation, which she suggested he had misunderstood.

After taking several more questions, Clinton ended by saying she valued these kinds of conversations and urging Iowans to support her in the caucuses.

"I'm taking nothing for granted," she said. "I hope I'll be able to earn your support."

Rolph said after the event that he was a registered Democrat who had come with an open mind but that he would not be supporting Clinton after the way she responded.

"Who in this room believes we aren't going to attack Iran before Bush leaves office?" Rolph said.

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If, and I mean a big IF, there is a real debate between Her Hillness and a real Republican, she won’t stand a chance. Her handlers will protect her though. Anyone who has a brain can see she is such a control freak she can’t answer a thoughtful question even from members of her own party. God help us all if this monster and her evil master (Bill) get into office. The US won’t survive.

micfranklin · #2 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 02:33 PM

Let's be real here, all it takes is another false report (aka lie) to get us to invade Iran and inevitably end up with going to war with the entire Middle East.

emptypepsi · #3 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 02:44 PM

To be honest here, she did not react very well and the guy asked a pretty serious question. This doesn't do much to sway me in her direction.

Tim · #4 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 02:54 PM

She did blow it - but that's unusual. She doesn't usually lose her self-control that way.

LessGovMrPrez · #5 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 05:09 PM

Doesn't the left consider any kind of rational questioning a plant question?

I mean come on. When is the liberal mainstream media gonna hound her on something? She gets a free pass whereever she goes.

Troianii · #6 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypepsi

To be honest here, she did not react very well and the guy asked a pretty serious question. This doesn't do much to sway me in her direction.

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Originally Posted by Tim

She did blow it - but that's unusual. She doesn't usually lose her self-control that way.

To be honest, I can't understand how she's gained so much strength in the Democratic polls. Obama, for example, is a much better public speaker than Hillary, as I think Edwards is. I've been listening to Hillary and she has mostly said things of no substance, and when she actually says something with real importance and seriousness it seems to be a total flop, like the $5,000 babies.

prrriiide · #7 (**permalink**) 10-09-2007, 01:50 AM

Pretty crummy journalism...what was the context of the exchange? Was it in a small group town meeting atmosphere? Did he just come up to the front of the stage at a rally and start in? There's no context within which to make an unbiased assesment.

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Randall Rolph, from nearby Nashua, asked why he should support Clinton's candidacy when she did not appear to have learned any lessons from having voted to authorize force in Iraq.

And let's be real...if you go and put a candidate on the spot and make an ass out of yourself by being abrasive in the first place, what would you expect? "Oh, there there. It'll be OK. Momma won't let anything happen to her little sweetie." Bullshit. These candidates didn't get to where they are because they take shit from anyone.

Like they say where I come from...before you fuck with the bull, you better figure out how to deal with the horns.

Telling a candidate, any candidate, in front of a crowd that they have not learned a lesson is an express lane to a verbal beatdown.