Only two GOP candidates with balls - Page 2 - Political Forum

superdude17* · 07-30-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by apawllo

Giuliani is officially a joke. Pulling out of the Iowa Straw Poll and now the YouTube debates - might as well just issue a press release saying he doesn't care about the American public.

He already had a prior commitment before CNN decided to do this. Without even consulting him, they went along and made a date. I find courage in a man who is willing to stick to schedule and carry forth. Ultimately, CNN will reschedule.

CHUQ · 07-31-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by francois60

McCain is close enough to the front that he's within the statistical margin of error in some polls. While he's hurting, he's still in the top tier.

As for well structured and professionally moderated debates, that's a joke. Those debates prevent any candidate from being challenged and allows them to simply not answer the questions asked of them.

An excellent observation all the debates allow for generalities and that educates no one but the weak minded.

CHUQ · 07-31-2007, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by superdude17*

He already had a prior commitment before CNN decided to do this. Without even consulting him, they went along and made a date. I find courage in a man who is willing to stick to schedule and carry forth. Ultimately, CNN will reschedule.

You may be right, they will pander to one candidate or they could say screw it and go ahead with the debate, because it will not hurt them if he is not there. And polls do come out after these debates and if he is not there then he could suffer a bit. Not that it would make that much difference, but I would want the most exposure to the most people that I could get. Just a few thoughts.

SamInTheSouth · 07-31-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by francois60

Secondly, this isn't because they think it's undignified, they hate it because it's unscripted. Republican candidates, far more than Democratic candidates, simply don't want to answer certain questions.

Oh, is that a fact? Would you care to explain why the Democrats refused to do the Fox News sponsored debate in Nevada that the Congressional Black Caucus wanted? Could it be perhaps they know they wouldn't get their usual softball questions? Would it not be fair for me to say that Democrat candidates, far more than Republican candidates, simply don't want to answer certain questions? Please, do tell.

SamInTheSouth · 07-31-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aegis

The U-Tube debates are a joke. The serious Republican contenders will save their opinions for a well structured and professionally moderated debate which has value to the American electorate.

Bingo. The Youtube debate was ridiculous. These people are running to be the holder of the most powerful and prestigious office in the world and CNN and Google treated it like a circus.

SamInTheSouth · 07-31-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainMike

As much as I can criticize the YouTube format, a very large number of YOUNG people will be voting, and this relates to their generation.

No they won't. Young people don't vote. We kept hearing in 2004 how there was going to be this huge turnout of young voters in the election and it was no more than it was in years past. 2008 will be no different. They don't give a shit.

CHUQ · 08-01-2007, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SamInTheBurgh

No they won't. Young people don't vote. We kept hearing in 2004 how there was going to be this huge turnout of young voters in the election and it was no more than it was in years past. 2008 will be no different. They don't give a shit.

Could this be because neither party addresses the issues that they are concernbed with or maybe they do not see any change no mattewr which group holds the winning hand. I agree that the young vote will probably be non-existence, but why not try and find out why instead of belittling them?

emptypepsi · 08-01-2007, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by superdude17*

Oh please. I have had enough of the Ron Paul bull shit. The man is a crock.

Gee, I guess we'll just have to take your word for it then, eh?

SamInTheSouth · 08-01-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CHUQ

Could this be because neither party addresses the issues that they are concernbed with or maybe they do not see any change no mattewr which group holds the winning hand. I agree that the young vote will probably be non-existence, but why not try and find out why instead of belittling them?

I am not belittling them. I am simply being realistic. They don't vote for the most part because it doesn't interest them. Young adults care about getting drunk, getting laid, American Idol, and The Real World. I know. I was that age once and I didn't give a crap and neither did any of my friends.

The parties don't address their issues because they don't vote. Politicians address the issues of the people that actually vote for them.

SamInTheSouth · 08-01-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainMike

Even if you eliminate the craziness of the YouTube format, the idea of having spontaneous questions asked where candidates do not have a chance to get their speech writers giving them responses is interesting. In the previous debates I have been alienated with the GOP events being like slow pitch softball. Everyone had a smooth presentation because they had it written by speech writers and they had rehearsed it in front of acting coaches. The first few Democrat debates where the same. Clinton and Edwards will always come off smooth because they are both rich, and can afford the team of writers, acting coaches, strategists if not hair sylists and cleavage experts.

I agree with you. I just don't think the YouTube forum was the appropriate setting for something so important.