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07-16-2007, 12:22 PM
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At this point, every candidate who is to be taken seriously wants to get us out of Iraq. Again, we can't reduce government to the extent he believes we should. There were far less people in our nation at the time of it's founding, reducing government to where it was then is unrealistic.
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But if humanity is to evolve, then it would be necessary. And by the way, Paul was the one of those who voted not to send troops to Iraq in the first place.
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07-16-2007, 12:23 PM
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But if humanity is to evolve, then it would be necessary. And by the way, Paul was the one of those who voted not to send troops to Iraq in the first place.
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What lead you to that conclusion?
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07-16-2007, 12:26 PM
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What lead you to that conclusion?
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People depend too much on the government these days, they want it to do everything for them: put kids in schools, regulate the media, decide what drugs you can and can't put in your body. And that's just three things it doesn't need to do.
Less government = more individual freedom. That's what Ron Paul stands for and quite frankly so do I.
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07-16-2007, 12:29 PM
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People depend too much on the government these days, they want it to do everything for them: put kids in schools, regulate the media, decide what drugs you can and can't put in your body. And that's just three things it doesn't need to do.
Less government = more individual freedom. That's what Ron Paul stands for and quite frankly so do I.
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You disagree with public school?
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07-16-2007, 12:31 PM
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You disagree with public school?
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The federal government needs to back out of the education system and let the state and local governments take care of that. There's no constitutional law that says the feds monitor education.
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07-16-2007, 12:32 PM
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I think public school would be fine if the government only paid for it and let private organizations run it. With the way that teachers unions are now, there is no competition for the teachers to do better. I've read that in New York, they have what are called rubber rooms. Basically a place for teachers that are too sorry to have them actually teach. They can't fire them, so they pay them to sit in these rooms with a thumb up their ass.
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07-16-2007, 01:11 PM
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iTaliAN_ICe,
Aside from a neo-isolationist foreign policy, he certainly has some esoteric ideas. For example, he introduced H.R. 2756 that would repeal Section 5103 of Title 31 of the U.S. Code. The existing law in question is as follows:
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
If this law were repealed, as Mr. Paul seeks, then U.S. currency would cease to function as a medium of exchange. In that case, businesses or individuals could reject payment in currency and demand commodities, barter, personal services, etc., in place of currency. This would undermine the functioning of the U.S. economy.
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07-16-2007, 01:19 PM
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iTaliAN_ICe,
Aside from a neo-isolationist foreign policy, he certainly has some esoteric ideas. For example, he introduced H.R. 2756 that would repeal Section 5103 of Title 31 of the U.S. Code. The existing law in question is as follows:
United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
If this law were repealed, as Mr. Paul seeks, then U.S. currency would cease to function as a medium of exchange. In that case, businesses or individuals could reject payment in currency and demand commodities, barter, personal services, etc., in place of currency. This would undermine the functioning of the U.S. economy.
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There goes all arguments for his sanity.. 
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07-16-2007, 01:49 PM
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Before I go on defending Mr Paul, how about everyone have a look at this:
Ron Paul on the Issues
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07-16-2007, 02:03 PM
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What teachers face....
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Originally Posted by FRYandBENDER
I think public school would be fine if the government only paid for it and let private organizations run it. With the way that teachers unions are now, there is no competition for the teachers to do better. I've read that in New York, they have what are called rubber rooms. Basically a place for teachers that are too sorry to have them actually teach. They can't fire them, so they pay them to sit in these rooms with a thumb up their ass.
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You're noticing the negative sides of both unionized government workforces, and the long term outcome of a lack of corporal punishment in schools and the home. Because children are little demons, and if we had to go to work facing that kind of crap, we'd be worn down too. There ain't no heros like in the movie "The Substitute" that come along, it's one aweful day after another. Reducing the role government plays isn't as important as de-unionizing teaching and see if privatizing the industry can come up with a better environment that has consequences for the bratty little snot nosed students that progressive parenting people created, and the teachers worn down by them.
My point.....Ron Paul is the only candidate that has the brains to come close to making something as controversial as this happen. The others are just all playing the political game and would compromise with the powers that be and nothing would change. Just like parents have to do things that thier kids don't like for thier own good, Ron Paul would do what's right for America even though we'd cry and snivel because we didn't get our candy, and it hurt our little feeleings. Americans don't always know what's good for them, thus the term "Leadership"
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